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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday March 24, 2003 10:54author by Bernd Report this post to the editors

Am I reading this wrong?

Are the Iraqis really violating the Geneva Convention by televising pictures of PoWs?

The Geneva convention says:

Art 13. Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.

Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.

Measures of reprisal against prisoners of war are prohibited.

Does Iraq act in violation by showing the TV pictures of the US PoWs? I don't think so:

This is not "public curiosity", but news repoarting ... or else the pictures televised/printed of Iraqi PoWs in "Coalition" hands are in flagrant breach od the same convention.

A further thought:

By showing those guys alive and (moderately) well, Iraqi TV has made it near impossible to harm them - the world knows they were captured alive and will demand to see them home save and sound.

Should I ever become a prisoner, I would actually welcome being filmed in custody just to have proof that I was OK ... before whatever happened (fall down step stairs, involuntary but volatile contact of head to radiator, shot in the back ...). OK, it wouldn't save my life, but it would make a damn good explanation exercise for the perps ...

Out of this reason alone the "Coalition" should be happy about any televised image of PoWs ...

Twisted logic?

Related Link: http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/7c4d08d9b287a42141256739003e636b/6fef854a3517b75ac125641e004a9e68?OpenDocument
author by kokomeropublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:10author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Americans are guilty of a gross case of double standards.

They can incarcerate POWs in Guantanamo in pig-pens open to the elements and use sensory deprivation techniques, and can use the Israelis and Pakistanis among others to torture POWs for them at arms length.

So why are they so worried about a few of their people being interviewed on TV?

Its all about control of news-flow and the US are actually disgusted because they were caught completely wrong footed.

author by David Rynnepublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Were they simply made up?

author by FourWindspublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I watched the pictures of the captured soldiers in horror. They were being asked questions for propaganda purposes and this is against the Geneva Convention.

The site of the eyes of one soldier in particular will live with me forever. He was terrified!!! His eyes kept flitting backwards and forwards from the questioner to somebody standing off camera. He was obviously being heavily coerced into answering 'correctly'.

I will take this opportunity to condemn the US double standards on the Geneva Convention and its implementation in the strongest possible terms as well as Iraq's equally blatant contravention.

author by Berndpublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

FourWinds:

If I had been flown in for a merry jaunt in the desert as a reservist and then realised that the te=reacherous Iraqis are not only actually fighting back, but also killing people sitting fairly near to me, I would also be shit-scared.

And I pity those guys ...

Still - you are assuming a breach of the Geneva Convention, but have no proof.

As I said before, these pictures might actually save lives ... I think no PoW ever being filmed/photographed for propaganda purposes was subsequently killed by his captors.

author by Terrypublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

And it was admitted by the Americas that two Afghani prisoners held by them
in Afghanistan died due to the effects of torture inflicted by US interrogators.

I am sure if you saw the pictures of the bodies you would be 'horrified'

Just because it's not on CNN, doesn't mean other horrible stuff is not happening
elsewhere.

author by uncle samuelpublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Those evil Iraqis making propaganda out of poor helpless captured GIs ......

Thank God for AMERICA which would never stoop so low and will forever only disseminate the pure white shining light of TRUTH ....


Why don't you tit-heads ever WAKE UP ...

THERE IS A WAR ON IN IRAQ
AND THE IRAQIS DIDN'T START IT ....

MOREOVER THE US TORE UP THE INTERNATIONAL RULE BOOK BEFORE IT STARTED ....

The US army is an imperial slave army ...
Its footsoldiers are comprised of black, hispanic and poor white Americans .... its officer caste with the exception of a few uncle toms like Powell are all nice white boys from good backgrounds .....

Throwing grenades into your officers tent didn't start in Kuwait ... it was also common enough in Vietnam .....

Let's hope that the slaves don't start to mutiny as their masters whip them onwards towards Baghdad .....

author by not mepublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

author by The Grand Inquisitorpublication date Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Can anybody - especially those little liberal whiners moaning about the Geneva Convention - tell me whether or not the US has actually declared a "war" in accordance with its own constitution ?

As far as I was aware, the US constitution reserves the right to declare war to the CONGRESS.
It is not a presidential prerogative .....
We all know that Bush is pretty gung-ho about this war but has he actually bothered to get CONGRESS to rubber stamp it .....

Now before we get into discussion about the Geneva Convention answer me this: has the US Congress voted for a war on Iraq ?
I am not aware of any vote in Congress on the matter ........

If not, technically there is no war (from a purely academic legal point of view), or at least no war has been formally declared in accordance with the US Constitution .....

Without a "war", you cannot - legally apeaking -have "prisoners of war" .........

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