BitTorrent Now Available: 'Route Irish' Documentary - Come and Seed

by ec Wed Nov 28, 2007 18:26

thanks for the suggestion rahood. I'll make an mp3 and put it somewhere.

by ec Thu Nov 29, 2007 01:24

Managed in my innocence of p2p etc to muddle through and get torrent file uploaded to mininova and son of shun and downloads got busier very very quickly -

Can't seem to get it onto onebigtorrent.org - formerly chomskytorrents - can anyone do it 4 me?

Other suggestions of places where I should upload torrent welcome. Wow those feckin sites are SOOO busy and populated. In one an admin added links to revolt and here to the post in 30 seconds flat.

by Seán Ryan Thu Nov 29, 2007 06:27

Managed to upload it.

http://onebigtorrent.org/torrents/2424/Route-Irish

by ec Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:03

You're far better at 'selling' it than I am. Much appreciated.

by ec Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:50

Piratebay: Keeps telling me something about announce url being wrong

by loninappleton Thu Nov 29, 2007 19:15 lon at athenet dot net

Just saw this at OBT.

There's much good content there so check out the rest. Help Martin maintain OBT with any contributions you can.

I'll be showing this to the peace group here in US. There's a world of important content on torrents.

by hamish - www.undercurrents.org Thu Nov 29, 2007 20:34

Its posted on http://visionontv.net as well as a torrent.

http://www.undercurrents.org/visionontv/download.php?i=...9a043

Coming soon. The current revolution in internet TV represents a historic opportunity for radical video to realize its potential as an agent for social change. To this end, Undercurrents has begun a project called VISIONonTV. This project is not mere video on the web, but IPTV, a television station which updates the twentieth century medium of television for the broadband era. It will be as to easy to use as the old box in your living room.

by ec Thu Nov 29, 2007 21:34

I have a very hi quality as per vision on guidelines version on the way - it's taking me auld mac a long long time to output it.

by ec Thu Nov 29, 2007 22:00

I suppose it's part of trying to do this kind of thing. Registered at both. Posts get bumped off.
If there are regulars of either establishment around - they'd have a harder time bumping you ;-)

by Miriam Fri Nov 30, 2007 01:56

Niall said/quoted

'And /the state knows that those who want, who bombard with demands without a willingness to sacrifice anything meaningful can always be outweighted.'

This is the core of it - the thing which so many have taken too long to recognise and to commit to - personally guilty of that and ashamed to think of all that it took to cop on. Indymedia has been an education in that respect - a door onto a world which this very flawed and blinkered person would probably never have come by otherwise.

by S. Aerobics Fri Nov 30, 2007 13:50

"...the film goes through the tactics used
- it is meant as a history
and I don't ever remember there being
any sense of an overall sense of strategy
...bringing the situation to a head was as much luck as anything widely agreed by the groups involved."
-says ec in a comment above

A History?
At one point during the film ec's voiceover alleges that
- "The Peace Camp [was] initiated by some veterans of Greenham Common..."

Can anyone verify that the Peace Camp was initiated by Greenham Common veterans?

From my search of the indymedia archives the first mention of the Peace Camp is found at the Second Grassroots Gathering, which took place in Cork in the spring of 2002.
"Suggestions included: Peace camp w/e at Shannon targeting issue of Irish neutrality"
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/73804

This gathering also provides an example of the
"sense of an overall sense of strategy" that thusfar seems to have eluded ec
and i find it a disempowering insult to everybody at that and similair meetings
to suggest that our energies in bringing situations to a head "was as much luck as anything"

ec says-
"I always thought at the time, and still think, that a way of forcing in a safe way Faslane style mass arrests would have been key to any effective way of upping the ante in the campaign."

Did you use your energies to push the idea through at the time?
Or did you leave it to luck
and wait for 'some veterans of Faslane' to do it for you?

by From memory Fri Nov 30, 2007 14:50

Peace camp intitiated as an all women's weekend peace camp by Mary Kelly and others around Christmas 02 involving at least one woman veteran of Greenham (seen speaking on Route Irish thanking men taking up the eventual invitation to join following the intital weekend). Doubt it was the product of a lot of strategising....

Peace camp got little practical support from the huge movement that came and went (even had their Late Late slot hijacked by IAWM/SWP) and depended on a few heads that were pretty exhausted after the month of January, the stressful environment and Aer Rianata upping the ante with the injunctions. The peace camp had a lot to do with putting the issue on the media radar Jan 03

An English guy Adam (?) and maybe Dubsky were pushing the Faslane strategy but not very successfully....never got traction. Although a crew from Limerick Uni and others had been busted at Faslane previously.

by ec Fri Nov 30, 2007 15:35

"From my search of the indymedia archives the first mention of the Peace Camp is found at the Second Grassroots Gathering, which took place in Cork in the spring of 2002.
"Suggestions included: Peace camp w/e at Shannon targeting issue of Irish neutrality"
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/73804"

"This gathering also provides an example of the
"sense of an overall sense of strategy" that thusfar seems to have eluded ec
and i find it a disempowering insult to everybody at that and similair meetings
to suggest that our energies in bringing situations to a head "was as much luck as anything"

The film very much acknowledges that the camp and the people around it, the grassroots groups who pulled down the fence, succeeded very well in bringing the whole issue to national attention.

When I'm speaking about an overall sense of strategy - I mean a strategy shared by the various factions of the movement against the use of shannon when it as a whole had big popular support - Yes various groups involved had their own strategies but they were far far far from co-ordinated as a whole. When they woked effectively together it WAS luck as much as anything else i believe.

As to why I didn't involve myself in such arguments at the time - well I did to some extent and could probably dig up some evidence in the archives here but have little desire to start justifying my actions at this stage.
.

by S. Aerobics Sat Dec 01, 2007 15:43

"The peace camp [was] initiated by some veterans of Greenham Common..."

I'm critical of those words that ec use's in the film.

I've provided historical evidence (see link above) to show that the peace camp was "initiated" in public in March of 2002.

It was not a product of "luck".

At that meeting at least 2-4 people
committed themselves to a Peace Camp at Shannon.
At a later stage ("around Christmas 02" according to 'From memory' above) the initiative was joined by a (some) veteran(s) of Greenham Common.

Maybe ec can clarify this at future film screenings
such as the one to be held in Cork?

by Conor Cregan - Cosantori Siochana Sat Dec 01, 2007 21:08

As one of the many founding members of the Shannon Peace Camp I think I am in good position to give the definitive history on the debate of the “who and how” the peace camp started. Of course this is really only my point of view. Please feel free to challenge me. Apologies if I don't mention you but there were hundreds of people who came and went during this period.

It was inevitable that a peace camp as a tactic was going to happen at Shannon. There were several groups and individuals talking about the setting up of a camp when the US invaded Afghanistan in 2003 and the talk carried throughout 2002. When the camp finally started to come together I had not long arrived on the scene myself. In August I had met Tim Hourigan and Ed Horgan briefly at Ecotopia 2002 outside Tuamgraney in Co Clare. Eoin Dubsky was organising a demonstration at the Airport and Ed and Tim came to discuss tactics. During the demo I met Mary Kelly who had just returned from the ordeal in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. Later I heard that Mary was arrested for jumping over the fence at the airport. This act of criminality had been forgotten until she took care of the US Navy War plane. The state used did offence to make sure Mary had a criminal record to ensure a prison sentence when they convicted her of criminal damage

I had been monitoring the planes alone at the terminal building for sometime before I found out that Tim and Ed had been doing so, on the now closed off viewing area at the other side of the airfield.

Dubsky told me that I would meet Tim at the "Reclaim the Streets" party in Dublin held on the 22nd of September that year. So I travelled by bus the one hundred and fifty miles up to Dublin to meet some who lived less than fifteen miles away from. I am glad I did as I had not been to a "reclaim the streets" gig for a very long time.

When I got up to Dublin I met some familiar faces from Ecotopia. Cllr David Healy of the Green Party who had been one of the people in my affinity group at the protest at Shannon in August pointed Tim out to me. Tim who is over six feet in height with a neat haircut was a standing by a lamp post while Ciaran Cuff was playing with some children in a sand pit in the middle of road outside the Stephens Green shopping centre. When I introduced myself to Tim it became clear he that was as suspicious as I was.

The next night we found ourselves sitting under a plastic tarp in the misty rain fifty metres from the runway at Shannon waiting for that nights issue of US troops to arrive at Shannon Airport. This would be our nightly pursuit for the next two or three months.

During a short break to Amsterdam to visit a school friend I learnt through indymedia that Eoin Dubsky and a unnamed friend had entered the airfield at Shannon and defaced one of Uncle Sam's Warplanes. Things were beginning to heat up at Shannon Airport.

After a few weeks things settled down again and Tim took a trip to Scotland. I got a phone call from Ed inviting me to meeting with some peace activists from Cork. The venue was the sitting room of Kay White who had been part of the organising team of Ecotopia a few months previous. When I arrived Ed introduced me to Kay Mary Kelly and Becky Garcia. Mary and Becky had a car full of camping equipment and were ready for action; Ed who was more reserved wasn't so keen to set up a camp that night but proposed that we do a recce as a first step. This perceived lack of interest seemed to be frustrating for Mary and the meeting was starting break down as these two strong personalities measured each other.

As the tension grew I announced that I had secured a house in Shannon as base for the peace camp. This idea was dismissed as Mary wanted to go straight to the Airport with her tent on that wet Novembers night. Eventually to break the deadlock we drove to the airport to pick a site. The Peace Camp would be on a waste ground near the shore of the Shannon River facing the Aer lingus cargo loading building. There was a good feeling standing on that waste ground as a pair of white swans flew over our heads and down the Shannon Estuary.

This feeling was short lived for Mary and Becky has packed the tent sand groundsheets back into their little gray van and set out to return for Baltimore. Later that day Mary had told me she wasn't going to return.
That morning I was meeting up with a Canadian student who wanted to interview an Irish peace activist for his thesis. To show him exactly the work I was doing I invited him to meet me at the airport. We went up to the viewing gallery on the third floor of the airport's terminal building. This area offers a good view of the departures lounge and the airfield. As a World Airways jet was leaving the gate another US troop jet was releasing more soldiers to the duty free lounge.

As I was putting a lens on my camera the Chief Officer of the Airport Police and Fire service, Tom Hanley, and two other members of the Airport Police barge in the viewing Gallery. Hanley made a beeline for me; then grabbed all my camera equipment without saying a word he ran out the door. Of course there was a few choice words exchanged outside the terminal building. As I was hoping to get a photograph of the troop plane I sprinted the 400 meters to the cargo gate with my bewildered companion following behind me.
Fortunately the plane was taxiing past the gates when I got there. I pulled out my camera and started to snap the plane. To the left of the viewfinder I could Chief Hanley and another middle-aged Airport Policeman sprinting towards me. I continued to snap thinking these will be great sporting images but I never got to see these prints. The two men grabbed me and trussed me up until an Airport Police patrol car arrived on the scene and the middle-aged crime stoppers conveyed me to the Shannon Gardai Station. Arriving at the stations public office, Dennis Swift, one of the local Gardai opened the door to let the two members of the Airport Police through leaving me alone. I turned to walk out the front door as Garda Swift said goodbye.
Think this was all a bit strange I ran Ed Horgan who has dropped everything and was on his way to Shannon. Ed accompanied me to the station where I made a statement of complaint for these assault and Kidnapping. Of course this never materialised in to a court case. The Gardai protected the Airport Police against the naive peace activist. I would not see camera equipment for another few weeks and funny enough the film confiscated in the interest of national security.
Ed told me he had rang Mary and Becky who had turned their little grey van around and when relatively speeding back in the Shannon direction. After awhile we all were drinking tea in a little cafe in the Shannon Town Centre. There was a lot of focus on my bogus arrest and I was feeling uncomfortable. I was relieved when Mary changed the theme of conversation by asking me about the house I was talking about the night before. Seizing the day I took the tea party down through the estates of Shannon to show them what became known the Peace House. We negotiated a sweetheart deal with the owner of the house and moved in the next day.
The house had not been lived in for some time and the landlady was using it to store he families past live. After several days of shifting old clothes, toy s and furniture we applied a lick of paint to walls and made it inhabitable again.
Tim arrived home from Glasgow startled by the changes to the campaign. The house was a great resource and a core group of people started to gel together. Word had gotten out and people started to visit this open house regularly. Tim and I would spend the night monitoring warplanes will Mary and Becky created a campaign headquarters. After the phone was installed Barry arrived with a computer and while others brought office equipment, mattresses, food etc. Other people moved in the house to volunteer. Some would stay for a day or two others for weeks on end. We fought that everyone brought happiness to the house, some by coming and others by leaving.
Early in December the “Grass Roots Gathering” demonstration set off from Tullyvarragh Hall to the Airport. Mary invited everyone back for tea and bowl of soup. Heavens knows what the neighbours thought as three bus loads of protesters trooped in to the house. The “Peace House” had arrived in to activist society.
Mary spent her days on the phone urging people to get involved. The support came in thick and fast as the campaign gathered momentum. Tents, tepees and tarpaulins were stacked up in the spare room while other camping equipment was stacked outside in the backyard. The Peace Camp was nearly ready to be rolled out but there were issues. Ed had put out a call out for the peace camp on indymedia. Along with a wish list Ed gave a general invite to people to get involved in setting up the Peace Camp run on the lines of the successful Greenham Common Peace Camp in the UK. This did not go down well with everyone. Margareta D’Arcy, a veteran of the Peace Camp at RAF Greenham made it known that it was a women’s protest and therefore the Shannon Peace Camp should be a women’s camp also. Fearing a split before the camp had even started Mary was sent as our envoy to talk to Margaret. Mary spent the day with Margareta at her house in Galway were they brokered a deal. When Mary came back to Shannon later that evening we all feared that Mary and Margareta would clash. Our fears were unfounded and when we heard of the proposal we were all delighted.

Margareta and Mary devised a plan that eventually later was seen as a media and tactical coupe. We invited the Women of Ireland to camp on the doorstep of Shannon Airport for a twenty four hour vigil on the eve of what is know in Ireland as Nollaig na mBan or Women’s Little Christmas. At this stage another strong personality arrived to the house. Tracey Ryan arrived back Palestine where she had been volunteering with the International Solidarity Movement. Tracey with her charismatic personality later took on the tasked of being Shannon Peace Camp’s public face.

As the sixth of January arrived the house teemed with energy. As vans and cars were loaded we all began to mentally prepare but no one knew what to expect. We had been planning this day for months but could not assume that the airport officials would tolerate us setting up camp on their land. In the Afternoon the women left for the Airport and parked up by the site we had chosen on that November night. They were met by a group of Airport Police who told them they could not set up camp there but steered them to a flat bit of ground near the entrance to the airport grounds. This site was far superior as it was easier to see by people travelling to the airport and the industrial estate. This effectively gave our protest a larger audience.

As the women pitched their tents the men took over the support role. The night of January 6th 2003 was the coldest night in decades. As the ground began to freeze a big hearty pot of “Potage Bon Femme” or Leek and Potato soup arrived and a bottle of whiskey was produced from under a duffle coat. The support from the public was overwhelming as people arrived with cakes, sandwiches, and much more. Brother Anthony from Glenstal Abbey in Murroe, Limerick arrived with a pick up truck with firewood from the monasteries’ forest to add to the car loads of turf, briquettes, and kindling supplied by the many well-wishers. The success of the Peace Camp’s 24 hour vigil was beginning to be realised as the press arrived to tell the world that the women of Ireland were making a stand against war. For the next four weeks hardly a day would go by without a mention in the papers.
The next day the authorities waited in the wing for the camp to fold up. The women made their point and everyone knew they were only doing their job. Sure wouldn’t they be pleased if the government stopped US Military using their airport as pit-stop. I don’t know when it dawned on them that we were no leaving but I can only presume it might have been when we rolled the caravan on to camp site. We had claimed our turf and from that moment Shannon Peace Camp would be an open house to all who opposed the use of Shannon Airport by the use military on route to war.

by Conor Sat Dec 01, 2007 21:15

We hope to show it in is Shannon and Limerick during December as a run up to the peace camp vigil.

by ec Sun Dec 02, 2007 00:17

I quote from the film

Margaretta D' Arcy - 'well it was the women of ireland who set up the first womens no to war camp and I'm glad the men have joined us and we have what we have today'

I think what conor says chimes with her having 'initiated' the camp. She is a greenham common veteran. I thought there were other veterans of it involved at the time. Perhaps I'm wrong. But not too wrong.

I thought the historic link would be interesting for an audience in Uk or elsewhere abroad.

I will mention that this is disputed in cork - or someone will for me if I'm not there.

Thanks Conor for the very vivid above account. I only got there after the caravan. You have a memory like an elephant. As it says in end credits of film here (indymedia.ie) is where you can find the whole story 'from the horses mouth'.

by Ciaron - Catholic Worker/Ploughshares Sun Dec 02, 2007 08:37

Thanx Conor for that history. I suspect the "Canadian student" was actually a U.S. student Mike. The first recruit to the Dublin Catholic Worker. Following Ecotopia, he called to vlolunteer at the nonexistent Catholic Worker soup kitchen. I said "Sure!".

From mid-2002, we ended up doing a weekly anti-war vigil at the GPO on Mondays and taking the bus to my housesitting gig in Ballyfermot where we would have soup and a CW liturgy with a Buddhist, an agnostic and a situationist.

Following his formative activist experience in Ireland, Mike returned to the U.S. to become a fulltime Catholic Worker getting busted a number of times doing NVDA against the war. For the last 3 years he has worked fulltime for "GI Hotline" where he advises members of the U.S. military who call form around the U.S. and from around the world on their oprions to get out of the military.

So you never know the consequences and influences your actions have! I know Mike's experiences with you at Shannon had a significant influence on his life's trajectory. Mike had been a high school student of Kathy Kelly's in Chicago. Mike is quite intellectually gifted, handsome and a good singer. As the Buddhist remarked in 2002, "This guy is going to end up being a Professor or in jail for a very long time!"

Gald to hear of this new initiative at Shannon and always impressed by the steadfastness of you, Tim, Ed and others.

by ec Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:04

Well the number of views/downloads of the film that I can count through torrents / vuze (Thanks to whoever put it there yesterday) / Stage 6 went well past the 500 mark last night. 60 people are now seeding so it's fast to get at present. About 15 people are downloading it at any given time. Big thanks to seeders and others who have been helping spread the word.

Just to put this in perspective. The previous feature length documentary I edited and distributed through 'activist' channels was distributed on VHS tapes (Remember those anyone!) and in total less than 200 were ever sent out into the world. Maybe I should see about redistributing it like this!

I'm running out of steam mailing people and posting to bring this one to peoples attention so hopefully those who thought it worthwhile will chip in and use their imaginations in spreading the word about it. The one thing that hasn't been done is get it on piratebay - so if anyone reading knows how to remake the torrent for them please do it.

Want to say thanks here to the gang in Budapest who arranged a screening on friday evening. I had the disconcerting but good experience of doing a sustained queston and answer session afterwards on skype with the very international audience. It was disconcerting mostly because I was in a net cafe and I was the only one there talking.

Oh and remember it fits on a cdr for ppl you know are interested but like me living in dialupland.

by ec Sun Dec 02, 2007 19:13

http://www.eurotrib.com/

An influential bunch of liberals - they helped get shell story into the Norwegian newspapers a long time ago during the time when the rossport 5 were in jail.

by Seán Ryan Sun Dec 02, 2007 19:50

Congrats Eamonn on the success so far, tis shifting like hotcakes. I'd advise putting Mousetrap on torrent too.

I've signed up to the Piratebay and have tried to upload. I keep getting the message that the torrent needs to be re-made or adjusted with the first tracker to be set to: http://vip.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce
Although elsewhere I'm informed the tracker should be set to: http://tpb.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce
Maybe the first two trackers should be the two above? I've messed around with my torrent software and have found that the only tracker in the torrent currently is the Indy tracker.

I'm a newby with torrents and don't have a clue how to do this. Any help or tips would be appreciated. It'd be a pity to miss piratebay as it's an incredible source. I've become a fan of torrents since this article prompted me to check em out.

I've just 'scraped' the torrent (I'm learning da lingo) and according to the update there have been 440 completed downloads and there are currently 55 seeds and 26 leechers.

by Mary Kelly Sun Dec 02, 2007 22:57

Eamon, to watching your documentary over xmas. Great achievement on getting it finished ! and out there far and wide.

Re comment from S. aerobics- "I've provided historical evidence (see link above) to show that the peace camp was "initiated" in public in March of 2002."

I attended many meetings in the old CAZ venue in Cork around then and yes, I remember the idea of a peace camp at Shannon being discussed. I imagine it may also have been suggested at other groups around the country at that time of intense build up to re invasion of Iraq.

However it was Margaretta D'Arcy with a couple of women who had also been at Greenham took the initial practical step of saying they would come and then did- arriving for Nollaig na Mban and setting up the first tent that burst into the peace camp. Thats my recall of it.

I'd like to pay a brief tribute to Robin Hennessy who died very suddenly last week.
There was a humanistic service for him yesterday in Dublin, and tomorrow he will be buried in Kanturk following 2pm mass, beside Liz Tully his beloved partner who died only seven months ago.

Robin was a very special loving person. He and Liz spent much of their lives fighting injustice worldwide, and more recently dedicated their time to exposing the complicity of the Irish government in illegal wars.
Combined, they had an amazing fount of knowledge and wisdom, and were an inspirational example of passionate engagement with their beliefs.
They recognised the importance of supporting those of us on trial for many and varied actions at Shannon. That support was practical and visionary ; they have left to us a wealth of practical knowledge and connections to other deeply caring citizens at home and far afield.
Initially we met through the peace camp. I am deeply grateful to have know these two exceptionally good and decent people.

Buen camino Robin.

by ec Sun Dec 02, 2007 23:39

for backing me up on that one! Discussing things and actually doing them are two different things as you I imagine well know.

Sorry u haven't got a copy yet. Burning DVDs keeps getting put off till later as i've been prowling the internet too much for my own good getting it out there. It'll get to you.

by ec Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:35

Thanks to the efforts of a very hard working Indymedia volunteer the film is now available at Piratebay. If you haven't downloaded yet and are intending on doing so go there to get it so there are seeds for it as it is a different torrent to the original.

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3918867/Route_Irish

by Anthony Mon Dec 03, 2007 14:20

The torrent file as originally published on this page is the best one to use. The only difference between the Pirate Bay torrent and the original indymedia.ie torrent is that it uses a different tracker which doesn't really matter to regular users.

The important difference for downloaders is that there are far more people sharing the film using the original torrent - currently 51 seeders compared to 29 leechers (downloaders) - while the Pirate Bay torrent only has 3 people sharing the file. That means people using the indymedia.ie torrent will download the film much faster since there are so many more people sharing it.

One of the problems with popular public BitTorrent trackers such as The Pirate Bay is that there's a large proportion of hit-and-runners (people who download the full file but stop sharing it as soon as their download is complete). There seems to be a better sense of community among the people using the indymedia.ie torrent. Over the past 10 days or so, there has been a consistently high proportion of downloaders continuing to share the file to others.

by Apparat - ISN Mon Dec 03, 2007 20:01

Anyone want to upload this on rapidshare?

Torrents are messy and unpredictable. Couldn't indymedia host it?

I think that a direct download would be grabbed by much more people than a torrent.

by nerdcore Mon Dec 03, 2007 20:08

http://www.archive.org

They can host lots of space (no ads). Good spot for films, doc's, etc. A lot of public domain and creative commons material.

by d'other Mon Dec 03, 2007 20:34

Rapidshare says "Upload-Limit: Unlimited! (Max. 100 MB per file! Split-Archives allowed!)."

The torrent is already being seeded from Indymedia and quite a number of people that use the site are doing the same..

Could you imagine what say 500 downloads of an 700mb file would do to the sites bandwidth?

Torrents are a perfectly fine solution to file distribution, just try them out and a world of free culture awaits you - especially if you can get an invite to one of the private tracker forums.

by Uncle Bill Mon Dec 03, 2007 22:24

More bleedn' tarrants. Whatever happened de good aoul trip to xtravision for a betamax and some of manhattans finest popcorn?

I'm not up to all dis technology anymore. Young lads from Canada shoutin about net neutrality and all de rest. Uncle Bill just wants a straight up download, no strings attached as he'd say to de russian businessmen on a bad day, or his secretary on a good one. Sure, I'd even be up for unrar'n it mesel.

Bleedin' tarrants.

by ec Tue Dec 04, 2007 00:41

DIRECT downloads are available at archive.org and stage6. Look up through the earlier comments for exact links

by ec Tue Dec 04, 2007 23:27

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by ec Tue Dec 04, 2007 23:30

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by S. Aerobics Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:28

A Peace Camp Primer has been
'initiated'
or eh...written.
Whatever - they're all talking bout it here:
'The Art of Creating a Peace Camp'
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/85369

by K Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:03

Is there anyway this feature can be moved to the opening indymedia page. I know of people who would still need this link to get get hold of Route Irish but might not be familiar with the website enough to go through the feature pages to find it.

by Rahood Fri Dec 07, 2007 15:19

Direct download from Archive.org for those moaning
as uploaded and posted earlier in this thread
by redjade on Mon 26th Nov

Archive.org direct link to the index(http)
http://ia360606.us.archive.org/0/items/RouteIrish/

Right Click and save the file (699mb)
http://ia360606.us.archive.org/0/items/RouteIrish/Route...X.avi

OR for the ipod/phone etc(94mb)
http://ia360606.us.archive.org/0/items/RouteIrish/Route...b.mp4

OR for the ipod/phone etc(216mb)
http://ia360606.us.archive.org/0/items/RouteIrish/Route...b.mp4

by ec Fri Dec 07, 2007 18:44

downloads from various places with counters now add up to 1000 or more. They've dropped absolutely like a stone since it got bumped off front page so I second k comment above - even the thumbnail somewhere would be nice.

Thanks loads to E. and others who sorted out a screening and a trip by luxurious train to CAZ Cork last night, and thanks to those who turned out on a rotten windy wet night.

by ec Thu Dec 13, 2007 21:33

Just looked at torrent statistics. Lots of downloads still going on. If you have downloaded via piratebay please seed as much as you downloaded at least. Lots of people (55) leeching from 3 seeds there at present. The indymedia torrent is much more healthy with 56 leeching from 35.

I would love to know where those 120 people have come from.

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by Anthony - rtorrent user Sun Dec 16, 2007 20:45

The above comment is good advice if you're downloading torrents that contain executable files (they may contain viruses or other malware) or if you're downloading files of copyrighted material that the MPAA or RIAA are interested in.

Most good BitTorrent clients will ignore peers that send them data that fails the bad data checks too many times. Of course nothing can be done about dodgy clients that just download from peers that are simply seeding and don't have a way of knowing that the dodgy clients are sending bad data to other peers in the swarm.
In this case, the anti-piracy bad guys will succeed in wasting the bandwidth of the good seeds but they will only bother to do this for torrents containing material they consider to be their "intellectual property".

To summarise, people who are just interested in downloading Route Irish can safely ignore the above advice as the Route Irish torrent contains no malware and is of no interest to the "anti-piracy" corporations.

by ec Fri Dec 21, 2007 15:20

http://www.mininova.org/distribution

Will be using the above to get RI on mininova front page shortly. 27 million X 2 eyeballs per month are not to be sniffed at.

by hs - sp-personal capacity Thu Dec 27, 2007 19:45

congratulations on it, good to see a critical view of the movement. On the positive side I think if nothing else the movement exposed the Irish state's complicity very clearly. And whatwere genuinely very small numbers did cause cause some trouble for the state. Its not easy to stop a war, I don't think that we should beat ourselves up for trying. Much of what Eamom mentioned, mass civil disobiedence and arrests did happen in other countries, but that ddn't stop the war either. Whole military bases were surronded in Italy. i don't think we can stop wars by direct action or protest marches, it takes something bigger and invariable political. Direct actions and marches (large and small) are part of this sort of struggle but I suppose we need a mass of people involved in prolonged action, which again isn't easy. It is hard not to be pessemestic when the movement lost such an obvious battle, but on the other hand the people in Ireland who organised and stuck with it (of which i don't include myself) were tiny in number and I think you should all take pride in what you attempted to do. If thats egotistical so be it.

by r v Tue Jan 01, 2008 17:18

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by ec Thu Jan 10, 2008 14:47

http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-uncensoring-to-indep...0109/

Downloads from various trackable places well above 2000 now. The above article added about 100 downloads last night. Thanks to those 10 or so seeders who have been sticking with it.

Slowly but surely.

by NeoCon Hitman - MyPetGoat.co.uk Thu Jan 10, 2008 19:55

The Pirate Bay has millions of users. If the site contained any spyware or viruses then it would be well publicised. However, usual common sense should be applied as with any download off the internet.

As for Google video ... check its terms and conditions. Once you upload a video to Google you are signing up to all sorts of small print. Generally this is in Google's interests rather than the author's. They are offering a free service which is great but people need to consider the terms before uploading their work.

Bittorrent is a pain for anyone who has not used it before but a 700Mb DivX or XVID will blow Google/Youtube out the water for video and sound quality.

by Tord Sat Jan 12, 2008 23:57

Thank you very much for this movie, I enjoyed it a lot and found it very interesting.

That American asking for ID was for me the most striking part of it - it seemed like a minor part, but I think it had a lot of significance. An American in Ireland ordering people around? Scary thought.

- From Canada

by seedot Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:20

When the footage of the American quizzing an indy vid head while behind Garda lines at Shannon first surfaced, he was identified as Lt. Col. John O'Sullivan who was based in the US embassy.

Shortly after this footage was taken he appeared on the Irish national broadcaster as a spokesperson from the US embassy on a different matter.

by ec Mon Feb 04, 2008 19:36

The Piratebay is really being attacked from all angles at present

Courts have just forced a european internet service provider to shut off access to it. I'm sure the same will probably happen here: http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-blocked-by-isp-080204/

by redjade Sun Feb 24, 2008 20:15

''The European Union has invested $20.5 million in a research project that is exploring the use of peer-to-peer technology for Internet television delivery across Europe. The P2P-Next project is using an open-source BitTorrent client called Tribler, which partners including the BBC and European Broadcasting Union plan to use to stream live TV. “This cooperation with both the British and German public broadcasters indicates that P2P is here to stay. We welcome the decision of the European Union to award this proposal around P2P. This means that Europe can expand its roughly two year lead in this important area,” Tribler’s Johan Pouwelse told TorrentFreak.''

More at...
http://www.rlslog.net/eu-invests-20m-into-bittorrent-pr...ject/

Info...

In Tribler's own words....
19 Million Euro for P2P research
http://www.tribler.org/P2P-Next/19Million-for-P2P

and
What is Tribler?
http://www.tribler.org/whatIsTribler

and the FAQ
http://www.tribler.org/faq
yes, it supports linux and mac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribler

by Disengagement? Sat Mar 08, 2008 20:27

This article by Simon Hattenstone in today's 8/3/08) Guardian
"No One Wants to Know" about movies on the Iraq war bombing at the box office may reflect on the general disengagement with the war. Not sure if it is the same story with documentaries?

Brian De Palma, Nick Broomfield and Paul Haggis have been called traitors and vilians, their films branded as "Bin Laden cinema". They are desperate to tell the truth about what is going on in Iraq. But there seems little appetite for war films right now.....

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,226....html

by Jay Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:07

Is there a DVD cover art image for this somewhere?

by silver6 Fri Apr 25, 2008 14:51

I just watched route irish last week - it's a great movie, that a lot more people should see if they can.

The US guy who featured at Shannon asking protestors for ID is the Military Attache at the US Embassy, Dublin - I don't what jurisdiction he has on irish soil to be asking people for ID ?
I found his details on this link [http://www.raco.ie/signalpdfs/4_1_electedreps.pdf] - the irish association of serving army officers, though quite see how this guy fits into that category for the irish army but the lines do seem to be getting blurrier and blurrier between ireland and the USA.

More people need to see this movie - how can we make it happen ?

by redjade Fri Apr 25, 2008 16:37

There isn't any cover art for Route Irish.

So, either you could create your own, or

Tell me the dimentions that you need and I will upload something here for you to use. made to order!

by redjade Thu May 08, 2008 22:04

The Ulster Herald writes:
''Also 'Route Irish', about the anti-war movement in Ireland
was well received. The documentary director, Brian Dick was in attendance.''

http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/UH/free/331405535607366.php

by Tech1.0 Fri May 09, 2008 12:46

Along with my big-up of PeerGuardian above, I can't recommend the light, open-source and accessible utorrent enough.

http://www.utorrent.com/

It uses minimal resources and is easily set-up.
Some tips on setting it up. When you set up utorrent on the quick setup page, make sure you input your upload speed not your download speed. If you don't know it then this speed can be accessed via speedtest.net ( http://www.speedtest.net/ ). Also, choose encrypt your data during set-up.