"History is a nightmare from which i am trying to awake"

by Ois - WSM Wed May 18, 2005 19:00

"Out of context (as usual)
by Vandala Tuesday, May 17 2005, 2:44pm


"Utterly daft. Where's the Bloomsday/Joyce connection? What's the point in mis-using quotes entirely out of context? Lordy, lord if you're going to mobilise into "action", have some intelligience about it."



Jesus

Paddy Kavanagh predicted this is how the Irish gobshitery would appreciate joyce in years to come. Ah sure aren't we great. Diddly-i Diddly-i whack fol de daddy-o.

He also predicted that some Irish 'Consciences' would still be ready to shatter Ireland's self-delusion with 'muck and anger' . Just like Joyce did.

'History is a nightmare from which i am trying to awake' is right.






from
THE PADDIAD
(Or The Devil as a Patron of Irish Letters)
by Paddy Kavanagh

'...A broadcast of his work might be
A reading of his poetry.
The government will give a grant
To build a worthy monument,
I know the Minister involved,
The cost will readily be halved.
Before we part let's make a date
To meet tomorrow night at eight
To make the funeral plans,
for this will be Ireland seen in France.
This is the window of our shop.
Paddy Mist might do an ap-
Preciation on the general
Culture of an Irish funeral.

...The group's dispersed. The devil stays,
Some discontent in his face.
Already he can see another
Conscience coming on to bother
Irealnd with muck and anger,
Ready again to die of hunger,
Condemnatory and uncivil-
What a future for a devil!'

by duh Wed May 18, 2005 12:27

Next time chop his whole head off and blur it.

by Pádraig Ó Ruairc Wed May 18, 2005 01:48 flannbui at yahoo dot com

Good man Finbar what are you at these days. Its been a while since we talked. Get in touch if you can, where are you working?
Is Míse
Pádraig from Clare.

by James R Tue May 17, 2005 18:38

Itd be good to stick them up, bring back memories for those who were around and also would greatly increase the chance of em being around in years to come as a reference.

by redjade Tue May 17, 2005 17:55

Egypt confirms 'rendition' of terror suspects

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=11297

ISN SECURITY WATCH (17/05/05) - Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif said on
Sunday that the US had sent as many as 70 terror suspects to his country for
interrogation since the 11 September 2001 attacks on the US.

In the first official acknowledgement by any country that it was being sent
terror suspects by the US, Nazif told NBS news on Sunday that “I don’t know the
exact number, but I know that people have been sent [to Egypt]” in line with a
practice known as “rendition”.

”The numbers vary - there have been over 60 or 70,” he said.

Nazif’s statement comes amid increasing reports that Egyptian officials have
tortured suspected Islamic extremists extradited to their country by Western
governments, including the US.

by photographer Tue May 17, 2005 17:48

I have some pix from car free day 2001 knocking around in my gaf, must scan them in sometime, twas pre-IMC ireland...

by soundmigration Tue May 17, 2005 17:34

the action took place on Bloomsdays, and the action was the symbolic hooding that took place was upon a statue of joyce. Most people on the street got what we were illustrating, which was the degradation and torture of humans, under the guise of a war on terror.

Sure, it isn't as complicated as some of joyces works, but there is no need to attempt to simultaniously intellectualise and then disparage an action based upon human solidarity, which was creative and engaged the public.

then again most critics prefer the sound of their own words. saves them the pain of trying something themselves.

BTW how are the quotes out of context...

by Vandala Tue May 17, 2005 15:44

Utterly daft. Where's the Bloomsday/Joyce connection? What's the point in mis-using quotes entirely out of context? Lordy, lord if you're going to mobilise into "action", have some intelligience about it.

by annony Tue May 17, 2005 13:42

Cheers.

by soundmigration Tue May 17, 2005 02:29

These wars still continue today..nothing much has changed. The shallow nature of our democracy was and is shown but the continued use of Shannon Airport by the US armed forces. The Irish state is not only complicit is this way, but actively tries to make criminals out of those who put their money where there mouths is, exemplified by the states prosecution of Mary Kelly and attempted prosecution of the 5 Pitstop Ploughshares, who recently had their case halted because of 'percieved' bias on behalf of the Judge.

joyce's quote

some people looking on at the action

"what going on round this side, margaret??"

by soundmigration Tue May 17, 2005 02:04

As people gathered round the statue of Joyce, whom they had come to celebrate, many where perturbed by what the activists where up to. Many had travelled overseas to take part in the Bloomsday celebration, an initially where not so keen to see the statue defaced. however when activist spoke many of the crowd, and explained our motivations, the attitude of those concerned changed. Amongst those gathered were shoppers tourists and folks just hanging out in the fine summers evening.