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FF versus the environment![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() - and the planet! Climate Change is happening and will get worse. Peat is the worst offender(worse than oil or coal)though on a global scale doesn't matter. Ireland has a commitment under Kyoto to cap its increace its Greenhouse Gas Emmissions at 13% above 1990 levels by 2010. At current rate of growth they will increace emmissions by 40%. The Celtic Tiger has no small role to play in this. The govt. could do a lot about this and has great plans such as carbon taxes which will a long time to fruition(you thought the plastic bags took a long time:-)). Today though they may as well have thrown those plans in the bin. Lip service how are ye? Then theres destruction to peatland, and a a whole gamut of knock on effects. Read on to see what Friends of the Irish Environment have to say and then the words from the horses mouth after PRESS RELEASE 15 MAY 2002
Background FIE have taken the first two of these grounds to the High Court and are awaiting hearing. The European Commission issued a Reasoned Opinion on 21st December 2001 which details the Commission's view that the failure to subject the The simple fact is that there has never been an environmental impact assessment of the extraction of peat in Ireland, in spite of the clear FIE now learns that in the middle of an election campaign, the Cabinet has decided to take unspecified measures to ensure that notwithstanding our challenge to the validity of the planning permissions and EPA licence, the
Friends of the Irish Environment, who have brought the Judicial Reviews, said Attribution: Spokesman
GOVERNMENT APPROVES MEASURES TO ALLOW ESB Mr Brian Cowen, Minister for Foreign Affairs has announced that, at the Government meeting earlier today measures to allow the ESB proceed with the Minister Cowen went on to say,"The decison taken today by the Cabinet, which I warmly welcome, means that there is no obstacle to the commencement of construction work on the new Power Stations regardless of the judicial I believe that it is critical to maintain the momentum for these large scale projects to proceed at this time and I am grateful to my Ministerial colleague, Mary O'Rourke for her early intervention to ensure that there is ENDS |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5Why should a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, the EU Commission, determine what happens to Ireland's bogs? That the world is warming up is obvious to anyone thats alive, but there is no scientific evidence that this global warming is caused by human activities, or that it can be ameliorated by human effort.
If you want to know what the mainstream scientific consensus is, read the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Meanwhile, there will be a special levy on everyone's electricity bill (no waivers or exemptions) to subsidise the production of electricity from peat, which is the most expensive way to produce electricity being used in Ireland. Then when we exceed the very generous 13% increase allowed under Kyoto, (sorry, we've actually exceeded it already), we'll have to pay even more to buy the carbon credits from other countries to bring ourselves back to our target. And that also will be on everyone's ESB bill.
All so that Bord na Mona can continue to exist, by destroying the last of the raised bogs and the climate.
Future generations will hate us, and books will be written about how we allowed this to happen. Something like "Industrialism's Willing Executioners", maybe. Justifications like yours about unelected bureaucrats implementing democratically agreed legislation being inferior to noble statesmen like Brian Cowen will be pored over by historians wondering if your view is real or a crude justification by those who are profiting from the current system.
Your confidence in knowing the emotional state of future generations should be treated with the same scepticism as your confidence in the scientific objectivity of inter-governmental reports. Has an inter-governmental report, ever, anywhere, told the truth about anything?
Joe,
I wouldn't normally go replying to individuals but I just wanted to compliment you on a firmly held opinion. Obviously you could research climate chaos (a more accurate description than change), you could read reports, both pro and anti (there are pro and anti everything reports), you could study science for years then analyse all the raw data thats out there, you could even just make up a happier ending than the previous poster. Instead you have taken the truly corageous stand that no-one knows anything, and there's nothing we can do anyway.
Has there been any witch-hunting or fianna-fail voting in your ancestral history?
In fairness to Joe Barry if he must be a member of Fianna Fáil.
[!!Get ready for conspiracy theory!!]
He might be one of the those well trained people who have been employed by the state to watch the posts to this and other fora to respond with the pro state, pro American, pro big buisness, pro war, pro celtic tiger view to disuade anyone who has just surfed on in to the site and is open to all opinions especiallly ones that reassure them that everything is all right. We are in safe hands - we never had it so good.
Well I guess Joe never had it so good:-)
[!!End conspiracy theory!!]
Does a vote for Fianna Fáil equal these executive "measures". I echo the FOIE question - what are these measures that have bypassed
the courts and have they also bypassed An Bord Pleanála? As to whether man has an influence on climate change. Just read your own parties words:
http://www.environ.ie/environ/env5.html
And I quote:
"human interference with the global atmosphere system through the emission of very substantial amounts of greenhouse gases is causing a discernible effect on global climate"
If its good enough for Noel Dempsey then it should be good enough for you.