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Els musulmans demanen l’ajut de Marti Alanis per a una mesquita

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Saturday April 26, 2003 17:36author by Ernest Pilar Report this post to the editors

La comunitat resident musulmana continua les gestions per aconseguir un nou local que els fidels puguin fer servir com a mesquita. Després que el Govern els hagi respost negativament a la demanda per a l’ espai, perquè, segons el president del Centre Cultural Islàmic, Mohamed Raguig, “ ens han dit que no tenen cap local ni cap terreny disponible” , l’ entitat va anunciar ahir que sol·licitarà la col·laboració del copríncep episcopal, Joan Martí Alanis, perquè “ com a màxima autoritat al Principat” intercedeixi davant l’ executiu. La comunitat musulmana utilitza actualment com a mesquita un local ubicat a la planta baixa d’ un edifici de la carretera d’ Engolasters, a Escaldes.

Raguig va manifestar que volen abandonar aquest espai perquè “ ens hi sentim incòmodes, ja que els veïns han trucat algunes vegades a la policia per denunciar que fem soroll, tot i que això no és cert” . El president del Centre Islàmic hi afegia que, amb l’ objectiu d’ evitar aquests problemes, “ volíem demanar un local que estigués una mica apartat” i que, de fet, durant una reunió que van mantenir amb el ministre de Cultura, Xavier Montané, ja li havien proposat un espai situat a la Comella que, segons diuen, està buit; tot i això, “ ens van respondre que no podia ser perquè el local no era propietat del Govern, sinó del comú” .
El portaveu del col·lectiu va assenyalar que també han reclamat col·laboració a les cònsols d’ Andorra la Vella, Conxita Mora, i Escaldes, Lydia Magallón, i que la resposta havia estat igualment negativa.
Raguig va afirmar que la reunió que demanaran en breu amb el Copríncep episcopal és una altra de les alternatives per aconseguir un lloc on els fidels puguin fer les seves oracions: “ Com a a andorrans i com a immigrants que residim al país, és un dret que preveu la Constitució quan estipula la llibertat de religió” . Així mateix va denunciar que en altres països, com ara Espanya, els musulmans han tingut el suport de les administracions locals per disposar d’ una mesquita “ mentre que aquí no hem obtingut aquest ajut” . Alhora va explicar que a França també s’ han adoptat altres solucions, com convertir esglésies que estaven en desús en mesquites. Segons Raguig, “ no pararem fins que no trobem una solució a aquest problema” .

author by Dick Dowlingpublication date Sat Apr 26, 2003 22:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

All very interesting, but how many readers of these pages can read Catalan ? Judging by some of the reactions to postings I have sent in it's clear that a considerable number of readers of Indymedia can't read English !

author by ipsiphi iosaf O asifpublication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

its cool by the way.
whose leaving this level of De Selby codex in my way?
Muslims are demanding the help of Marti Alanis for a mosque....The resident muslim community are continuing the work to find a new place where the faithful may hlod a mosque. After the gov. have negated their request for a space because according to the pres. of the Islamic cultural centre Mohamed Raguig (lol:-) "they have told us that there is space (such as a shop) or land available" The group anounced yesterday that they will solicit the help of the co-prince archbishop [Andorra is since the fourteenth century a prinicpality shared by French count and Spanish archbishop very odd] Joan Martí Alanis, because “as the supreme authority in the prinicpality” he may interced with the gov..The muslim community are using an underpass at the moment at Engolasters, a Escaldes.

ok.
dont have time.
they are being forced to use an underpass... they feel uncomfortable, not so happy, think of these people finely tunewd religikous sensibilities and are feeling a wee bit degraded.
and they are asking all the provinicial councils for help and been turned down.

= so I suppose they are asking everyone for support now, and i havent looked at BCN IMC but i suppose its there too.

and the prayer the faithful want to put up!
is about their liberty to religious expression.


hjmmm.

what happened to the mosque in the North?
the one David trimble didn't want?


author by ipsiphipublication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 13:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hola,
La comunitat mediteranea ten que fer mes els musulmans cert, i vulls ajudar se puc, pero en Irlanda tambè hi ha problems amb la construció de las mesquitas.
Contacteu al portaveu de Musulmans Irlandeses (d sur) potser un intercanvi?
saleem.
i passeu ho bè.

Related Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Islam-Ireland/
author by €publication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 13:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

http://www.shef.ac.uk/hispanic/acspags/consti.html
http://cultura.gencat.es/llengcat/publicacions/cle/ecle7.pdf

Andorra is a very strange place.
speaks Catalan.
politically weird.
shared "titular crowns" of Spanish and French state. do water, cheap tobacco, snow, cheap drink, gambling, cheap everything, cheap tax and have problems with
rubbish disposal, immigration (¿?¿?¿?) defence(!!!!!¿?¿?¿?) and transport links.
well no, they still are "andorra" coz it's pretty tiring to get there.
no-one hauling up an invasion army there.
and they haven't given the USAF a reason to air bombard them...yet!

bit like Donegal.

author by !publication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 13:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

for a map. maps are great.
http://cultura.gencat.es/llengcat/publicacions/cle/ecle7.pdf
see
its sunday miscellany again.

Related Link: http://cultura.gencat.es/llengcat/publicacions/cle/ecle7.pdf
author by -publication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 13:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

·······all········ of the north of Ireland speak irish according to the map.
hmmm. who is going to tell them?

author by ipsipublication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 19:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

we have Avi H one of our pro Israeli contributors in discussion with Penny and Marc who are in Israel and appear to be pacifists.
The question of the human shield contribution has been raised.
so ask yourself,
what are the links between muslims without a place of worship in Andorra part administered by France whose Minister of the Interior Sarkosy has the best record of any Euro-`politican at building mosques, and Lots of yes lots of foreigners in the occupied territories acting as international observers.

is that all they do?
well the training period they take part in prepares them for raisingh their hands in internationally recognised peace gestures and plonking themselves in front of Israeli tanks and soldiers.
They place themselves between the specially comisioned Caterpillar bulldozers and the houses of Palestinians.

They harvest the olives for the Palestinians who can not leave the occupied areas.

Now see the focus of the comments.
the reflect what might be called "left" and "right" of contemporary Israeli and Jewish thinking on the conflict.

notice that Avi H, refers to anarchy within the Palstinian areas.

The human shields most recently lost a 23 year old US volunteer, Rachel Corrie, but since her more have been injured. the week later a Swede recieved a bullet wound to his face, before the current phase of shields there were other internationlist groups that have volunteered for "supervising" the Israeli conscript army on its borders.

http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=45210&start=20

Related Link: http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=45210&start=20
author by Ali la Pointe - Fu-fighting anti-imperialistaspublication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 19:55author email thecaptain at warpmail dot netauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is all very good and interesting, but possibly the maddest collection of postings I have seen on indymedia (& thoroughly enjoyable.) The Portadown Masjid is going ahead as far as I am aware and opposition to it is collapsing. (Trimble's comment that the campaign in support of Portadown's moslem minority was Sinn Fein orchestrated is very telling of attitudes. basically if you are critical of Unionist racism or sectarianism, then you are a fenian. Ok so I am a fenian)

Som Fenians, Musulmans, i Catalans tots!

ipsipsipsiwipsy, you were supposed to phone me about free derry corner, wha'appen'?

author by ipsipublication date Sun Apr 27, 2003 22:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

no-one trust to leave it to a bill, and then the mobile with the numbers in dropped off of the talbe and battery died.
do! (to be said in homer sipmson voice)
(the US version) (the hispanic version Marge has Homer's accent)
talk to ye again!

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