comrades dillon regan kelly win in ucd

by John C - PolySoc-Society Mary I Thu Feb 20, 2003 15:01 polysoc at micsu dot ie

The news of the results of the SU elections in UCD is to be welcomed. I only hope that it at last heralds a new era for the whole student movement. It time for us to get invovled in society and for us as students to start shaping the world we live in.

Congrad's to the new UCDSU team.
John C

by Hammer time - NTM Thu Feb 20, 2003 15:35

How about a healthy dose of cynicism, or realism. All my years as a student I have not once noticed the SU being in anyway politically effective. Now this is not their fault as they are set back by college authorities who hold the real reigns of power. However the small mindedness and selfishness of the issues that SU officials are willing to take on board is unbelievable. They focus solely on free fees and nothing else it really is a case of where it hits my pocket and let the rest of you be damned. I predict much apathy to useless politics and no change. All politicians are the same in it to further their careers and I doubt these bunch of bandwagoners are different.

by Angrier Activist Thu Feb 20, 2003 15:59

Well done! You have given Education to a Trot who will use his position to ram the SP line down students throats.

He will take his direction from the SP Politburo and you will hear from SP platforms how UCDSU support the right of the Orange Order to march down the Garvaghy Road.

Seeing as he had to bus most of his campaign workers in from the outside, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of personation took place.

I think I'll take next academic year off.

by Don't be so fucking stupid Thu Feb 20, 2003 16:13

"Angrier Activist" is obviously the kind of fuckwit who would prefer to see a Fine Gaeler (the other candidate) as Education officer than a committed socialist activist.

Congratulations to the three CFE activists (one Labour, one Socialist Party, one unaffiliated) who won their positions. This should only be the start of a fight to reclaim the students union.

by To angrier activist Thu Feb 20, 2003 16:13

Angrier activist, you are a negative, provo, wanker.
Fuck off.

by Durutti Column Thu Feb 20, 2003 16:50

So, now if you support the people of the Garvaghy Road, you are a provo. The Section 31 mentality is alive and well in the 'Socialist' Party.

Is Eoghan Harris one of your back room boys?

by Mark - SP/CWI Thu Feb 20, 2003 17:00

The section 31 mentality?
What drugs are you on knob?

by Durutt1 Column Thu Feb 20, 2003 17:59

Its the mentality which used to be endemic in the Sticks. Anyone who in any way questioned the actions of the British or criticised loyalists was immediately denounced as a provo.

Its happened on Indymedia.ie quite often. If you disagree with the SP line on the north you are 'anti Protestant'.

by Intransigent Thu Feb 20, 2003 20:09

Time to show a little unity. As has been previously stated: would you prefer a Fine Gaeler to a member of SY in the SU. Now besides the fact that the SU is usually shit perhaps now that some decent activists have gotten in it is time to once more politicise students. Well I'll live in optimism and ignore the general sense of apathy among students on issues that don't affect em. Sure fight the fees but who gives a fuck if it don't mean I can't get another round! Though apparantely apathy is good for democracy. Maybe that's what you want to see. Not me. Now I will wait for the newly elected SU to do some decent work before I shell criticisms at them.

by Oisin Kelly - SP Thu Feb 20, 2003 20:26

The election for the Education Vice President isn't totally completed yet! it's still to go to a re-count, however being ahead by over 1.5% of the total vote on the last count should be enough.

I think that the results of the UCD elections show that there is a clear shift to the left among students. Paul Murphy, Paul Dillon, Aidan Regan and myself all received votes on the basis of the work we have done on the issue of fees, and the desire of students to have a SU that will fight on fees, grants, accomadation etc. This year should see cut-backs and the possible re-introduction of fees in some form. Students will be expecting our SUs to step up the fight on fees and to seriously challenge the government.

by arronrip Thu Feb 20, 2003 22:16

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by OK - SP Fri Feb 21, 2003 21:15

Total Poll: 4410
Spoilt: 241
Valid Poll: 4169
Quota: 2085

First Count
Harvey, John FG 1833 43.97%
Kelly, Oisín SP 1846 44.28%
Re-Open Nominations 490 11.75%

As no candidate reached the quota on the first count the lowest candidate (Re-Open Nominations) is eliminated and his votes are distributed according to second preferances.

Second Count
Harvey, John FG 1897 45.50%
Kelly, Oisín SP 1949 46.75%
Non-Transferable 324

No candidate reached the quota on the second count, as there are only two candidates remaining Oisín Kelly is deemed elected as UCD Students' Union Education Vice President.

by King Mob Fri Feb 21, 2003 22:09

What a disaster! A minority of a minority of the students in Belfield who voted have put trotskites and socialists in 'charge' of their affairs. Which means only one thing. They will f**k it up for all the students in UCD, including the large majority who didn't vote for any of the trot/socialist candidates. It does prove one thing though. The vast majority of students, not just in UCD are decent law abiding people who don't want any truck with you rabble rousers.

by Occy Boy Sat Feb 22, 2003 16:16

You sound like a past president of UCD. FFer I'd say!

by student scum Sat Feb 22, 2003 17:30

what? Law abiding blah blah
If you knew anything about UCD or most colleges in fact ud know that the majority of people in UCD are rich kid apathetic idiots, either jock piss-heads or orange make-up caked freaks. They prefer to talk about themselves or go to the student bar and start fights than to think for two minutes about anything but trivial crap.

Luckily some people are waking up and seeing that the education system and the Student union could do with a change and electing some decent candidates such as Paul Dillon and Aden Regan. And Oisin i reckon will keep them as left as possible, not like the pro-life wench in welfare or the idiot in Ents. I think they'll make a great team.

by Martin Dooley - NUI Galway Sun Feb 23, 2003 20:08

If there was a change in government and Labour were elected with or without FF would Dillon and Reagan be against fees if they were introduced by that government. I have a feeling that they wouldn't, Labour are taking a left turn all over the place particularly in the colleges. This is the case in my own college in Galway. So I think UCD students should just be carefull before they start believing that all has changed, it may be the case that you have simply swapped one shower for another. I hope this isn't the case, but students must now get active and push these people as far left as they can go.

by student scum Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:50

Paul Dillon joined labour because he was a leftie, not the other way round. Aiden isnt in any political party. If Labour came into power and began to turn right wing, a la new labour, my bets would be that Paul would leave the party.

by Martin Dooley - NUI Galway Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:54

"Paul Dillon joined labour because he was a leftie"

Can anyone else see the contradiction in this statement? Labour are not a left wing party they are a capitalist party. They have continually sold out and will in the future. Unless Dillon is completely niave I'm sure he has seen this.

by Martin Dooley - NUI Galway Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:57

"(if they) began to turn right wing"

Surely this turn has happened already. Are you completely divorced from real politics out there in UCD.