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Correspondence with Israeli Embassy re Gaza Piracy
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Wednesday July 01, 2009 18:24 by Raymond Deane - writing in a personal capacity
My complaint to the Israeli Embassy elicits a remarkably informal and rude reply, to which I respond as politely as I can under the circumstances...
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From me to the Israeli Embassy, Dublin:
by Pepe Thu Jul 02, 2009 15:13
Shame I could not make it yesterday, but well done for getting the people out there and once again demonstrate that Palestine is not forgotten. Also, well done Raymond for your original letter and reply to that predictable response by the Propaganda office of the Israeli State. The final comparison with Mugabe shows Israel for what it is: an authoritarian Apartheid state that fantasizes about it being the highest representatives of everything that it is good in the world (well, except for bombing all those "nasty and troublesome" Palestinian children). As usual, you came across clear and convincing.
by Greg T - IPSC (personal capacity) Thu Jul 02, 2009 18:05
http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2009/07/106229.html
by Sean H Fri Jul 03, 2009 01:20
If I am not mistaken, he also recently wrote a critically acclaimed biography of yer man Redomnd and the Irish National Party. got a fair bit of Radio Coverage about the book too.
by Fred Johnston Fri Jul 03, 2009 23:08
It seems clear enough the Israeli ambassador should be summoned by the Irish government to explain the actions of his government or be asked to go. There should be no 'explanatory' features by the Israeli Embassy or their spokesmen in The Irish Times, as appears to be the norm. The reply to Raymond Deane would not be tolerated were it to come from any other country. An apology from the Embassy should be the very least next thing. We are clearly dealing with an administration who believe themselves beyond the law, who can commit acts of piracy and put protestors on trial and expect not to receive the world's condemnation because the US backs them. Piracy, as I understand it, is an international crime. The holding of the relief vessel is a crime. It is time the Irish people said no.
by M. O' Sun Jul 05, 2009 09:00
Why haven't the IPSC been protesting to Ireland's real foreign minister - Javier Solana? After all he's the one directing our foreign policy - Michael Martin is but the parrotting boy servant.
by TD - Free Palestine Campaign Sun Jul 05, 2009 21:48
Some of the UK FreeGaza 21 detainees are likely to be deported Monday, should arrive to Heathrow 13.30 Monday - at least 3 of the 6 British FreeGaza detainees are being put on a flight to London in the morning, due to arrive at Heathrow at 13.30 p.m.
by Corkboi Mon Jul 06, 2009 01:31
I have read some of the comments here and laughed at how some people flower a few fancy words together and consider themselves educated.
by Feyadeen Mon Jul 06, 2009 15:14
"There are no buses seperately for Jews and Arabs,No seperate restaurants,Cafes,Universities."
by old codger - pensioner Mon Jul 06, 2009 15:32
To Corkboi.
by Greg T - IPSC (personal capacity) Tue Jul 07, 2009 19:25
'Hasbara' is I think a word that might be used to describe Corkboi's comments, which might be considered hilarious if the situation in that part of the world wasn't so tragic.
by Corkboi Tue Jul 07, 2009 23:12
Are you talking about the Green Party Canidate for the US elections who uses the racist and anti Semitic Black Panthers as security gaurds
by Corkboi Tue Jul 07, 2009 23:26
"in New York the Rabbi's marched to demonstrate their horror "
by Sean Og Tue Jul 07, 2009 23:53
Meah Shearim not Beth Shemesh is the district where the 100 or so Neuturea Carta people live in Jerusalem - means for some reason a Thousand Gates - maybe the way to Heaven
by Justin Morahan Wed Jul 08, 2009 01:12
Corkboi says: "And yes isn't it funny, Israel is supposed to be so intolerant.Yet anti Israeli groups within the state can operate freely"
by Ed Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:14
Both of you are partly right:
by Feyadeen Wed Jul 08, 2009 16:21
"Who said she lost her election due to AIPAC.Nothing to do with her crack pot notions.He genuine insulting stance about 9/11"
by Greg T - IPSC (personal capacity) Wed Jul 08, 2009 17:59
Corkboi in his continued ranting conveniently ignores the fact that there are many Jewish people in favour of a just peace settlement, for example the US based Jewish Voice for Peace ( a non orthodox group);
by Greg T - IPSC (personal capacity) Wed Jul 08, 2009 18:59
Food for thought;
by Frankson Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:22
This is a reply to Corkboi's comment of 6th July in which he states :
by Sean Og Sun Jul 12, 2009 01:05
by Greg T Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:39
The report is here;
by Frank Adam - private citizen Sun Jul 26, 2009 17:25
Ref Frankson and Greg, the South Africans like other people initially judge others by their own experiences. This is natural but can be frequently wrong with regard to phenomena outside that previous experience when the new experience has its own complexities independent of the person making judgement. This is why one should carefully check for fallacies before relying on initial similarity - unless you want to trip down a camouflaged manhole?
by evelyn Fri Aug 28, 2009 14:13
To Mr O Flynn,
by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Mon May 31, 2010 19:16
Sorry Frank Adam,i spent a couple of years travelling in South Africa,Jan '69-Aug '70.Palestine is a Bantustan,except that the Palestians are not actually ethnically a Bantu people.Pretty similar all right.And if SA had succeeded in getting the nukes in time CRH might be raising the barriers out there yet.Boycott is an honourable Irish form of non-aggressive response to aggression.Time to change from a neutered nation to a pro-active neutral one.brian mcgeown should holster that scatter-gun all scumbag bullshit.I'd say there are probably as many decent disgusted Israelis and Jews today as anywhere.Israeli lawyers are down for the courts tomorrow to charge their rogue state with piracy,among other crimes,and Gush Shalom and the refusniks are the real,steady,constant thorn in the Zionist arse,the one constituency that really worries them and they dont seem to be able to shekel into submission.Dont get lazy.There is such a thing as legitimate DISCRIMINATION.Its in the field of ideas,not false ethnic divisions that give us an illusion of moral superiority.Shalom. |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33Well done Raymond on your letter and your reply to the response received. The words of the Israeli Press Officer are just stunning in their arrogance, indifference and distortion.
Good stuff Raymond.
If anybody wants to contact the Israeli embassy to demand the release of the 21 human rights activists, here are the details..
01 6680 303 or email them on [email protected]
Let’s keep the pressure up!
It seems that the press officer is sending the same email to all who write in. This isn't surprising. What is surprising is the arrogance and insults in the email. In revealing Israeli callousness to the world it's not exactly very good hasbara (Israeli word for propaganda). Anyway, off to the demo now. See youse there.
The real villain in there is Dermot Meleady. I'm surprised that he entrusted replies to this hothead. I subsequently got a message from Meleady, but binned it without reading it - he once libelled me in the Irish Times.
Is this "liberal democracy" the one which immediately after it was undemocratically established set about the ethnic cleansing of 70% of its citizens simply because if given the opportunity to express their democratic will the Zionist state would never have come into existence?
Is it the same "liberal democracy" which razed over 500 villages to circumvent the return of these same citizens?
Is it the same "liberal democracy" which stole the homes, posessions, bank deposits, farms, orchards, vineyards and land of the same indigenous inhabitants?
Is it the same "liberal democracy" which continues to deny the right of return to these same people who 61 years later continue to languish in refugee camps in the region while Zionists from America, Russia and Europe occupy their homes, farms and land?.
Is it the same "liberal democracy" which put in place an apartheid judicial system which grants, those who can demonstrate even a tenuous Judaic lineage and are willing to come an occupy the land, superior rights to the indigenous people?
Is this "liberal democracy" the one which continues to confiscate more and more Palestinian land and continues the construction of the Apartheid wall ruled illegal by the international Court of Justice?
Is this the "liberal democracy" which can only be maintained by illegal force and the use of lethal weapons of mass destruction against innocent men, women and children?
Thought so.
yesterday evening's IPSC protest at the Spire in O'Connell Street against Israel's brigandage and kidnapping of Free Gaza activists and supporters on a humanitarian mission to the Strip.
Sinn Fein TD; Aengus Ó Snodaigh
IPSC National Events Coordinator; Freda Hughes
Video to Follow.
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Apologies if it is not appropriate to post this here but the Amnesty International report on the war crimes carried out during the Gaza War (Operation Cast Lead) was released today.
Amnesty International report on Operation 'Cast Lead' 0.39 Mb