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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broa...eath/
rather interesting. worth a watch. even if it's just to see michael portillo suffer!!
apparently scientists have known how to do it humanely for years. All that suffering on death row and in slaughterhouses is completely unnecessary. Simple hypoxia is the solution using an inert gas to induce it. Portillo couldn't even be bothered to press a button to save his life after 30 seconds, he was so high and happy!!
But apparently, there it is..there is a good humane way of killing.
However the real question is should we allow the state to kill anyone because they can't be trusted and the justice system is anything but just!
And there are real nasty psychopathic folk out there who have little good in them quite obviously and it costs a fortune to keep them watching colour tv and doing drugs or possibly keeping their very own violent drug business going inside and out (by phone!), while granny suffers on a trolly for want of finance for her hip replacement. Do we off him humanely? Is life, any life, really that great? why do we agonise over this evil excuse for a lifeform while quietly supporting the killing of lots of decent innocent folks in iraq?
Is he ever possibly going to produce a cure for cancer or will he just get out and fuck more people over violently without a thought? These are sticky questions
HOWEVER THE REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD WE ALLOW THE STATE TO KILL ANYONE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS ANYTHING BUT JUST! - “Kill me now”
You miss the point. The death penalty exists in the US because enough people in certain States want it that way. If there was a more direct democracy in this country, the UK and Belgium to name but three it would probably still exist here to. It’s a very recent notion that there is anything wrong or unjust with the death penalty – it is really only in the mid twentieth century that the abolitionist notion got traction. In the US liberal and rehabilitative thinking predominated in the late 1960s and early 1970s and the death penalty was virtually abolished. However crime rates went up and enough people sought a restoration. Arguably it is bound up with the notion of a very free society – the citizen has enormous individual freedom but if he transgresses in a very major way by murdering someone the penalty should also be very very severe. Its part of the social contract between the citizens and the State that this should be so.
3349 people on death row currently in the US. All time high.
Check out stats for California. Arnie must think its one of his movies or something!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_...tates
scary stuff!
If you are against the death penalty in the US , there are a number of things you can do
1. Declare war on the United States , and raise an army to invade it.
result = defeat and execution of you and your 'comrades'
2. Boycott all US goods and factories here.
result = homelessness and starvation
3. Write to all potential rapists, murderers , paeodphiles and assorted animals ( they are probably your friends, after all ) , asking them not to commit their crimes.
result = no one to execute
I tend , on the whole , to favour thing 1.
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/p....html
the f***ing animal bastard that did this should be put to death.
I don't care if he was depressed , or if his Father didn't play soccer with him enough when a child etc etc
He should be studied for a brief period to try to gain insights for the eventual improvement of society , and also to get the names of his 'friends'.
Then he should be murdered by the state, in a manner reflecting the severity of his crime.
I would choose 'Walling' ; that is to say , placed unharmed inside a very solid brick structure ( tenders ,anyone ? ).
Inside to die of starvation/thirst/whatever....
There are a number of offences were imposing ithe death penalty is fully justified. I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for people who brutally torture, rape and murder little children. Good riddance and keep those bastards frying on the chair is all I have to say.
Death Sentence in the USA
Opposed to the "Death Sentence" provided Killers are kept in prison for Life....not set free to Kill again.
Get the hidden facts. 2/3 of violent crimes are repeat offenders. There are 50 States in the USA.
Florida alone had over 2,000 solved murders in 2007. Now times that by 50 states...ok....25%.
More people were killed in the USA by repeat murderers than in the so-called ware in the middle east.
Note: the total of recorder murders do not include those missing and not solved. Criminals are the criminal systems annunity. .....The system of lawyers and judges make a living off them, in addition to the cost to keep them in prison. An elderly person that gets combative is given a drug to calm them down....in prision......mega bucks are spent to give the criminal unreasonale care.
Seamus