Gormley seeks 2 million from Petrol By-product corps for his Gum problem

by On Yer Bike Mon Oct 01, 2007 22:41

this constitution (updated nice treaty), they are now going Yes to it. Thought we were getting free bikes and cycle lanes thrown in for good measure (well clean environment I mean) , now petrol is up again. ON YER BIKE lads

by anti-greenie (pacifist) Mon Oct 01, 2007 22:11

.........this will go down on your permenant record........you can forget your summer job in the USA now.

Of all the lies in our comfortable Western societies, the neglible percentage of citizens when polled to admit to 0% recycling of their waste really cries for comment. What lying dishonest scumbags we are when only 3% of people say they never recycle their household waste. Oh, but we look from that statistic to the street twitching our curtains scanning the doors of our neighbours knowing that in an Ireland where the majority of people live in greater Dublin, mathematically within less than 700metres lives a bastard who doesn't seperate their rubbish.

I'm amazed there aren't editorials & harrangues from the modern day pulpits which are Telly chatshows exhorting these evildoers who are this age's equivalent of the fabulous devil worshipping cults who thronged pulp 19th century fiction and ranged it was said from a hollowed out Gibraltar to Calcutta. But they are in our midsts. Perhaps appearing as normal men and women who have never seperated their chewing gum and treated it as more toxic than a used battery. They who never peeled the metal ring off the mouth of an empty bottle, or seperated the plastic component from a cardboard tetrabrick. Those who have never seperated their cigarette butts from the foil inside an empty cigarette packet, and that foil from the cardboard and left the plastic aside for proper incineration.

But at least they are only 3% of our people.
Yet it makes me quiver with revulsion.

Anyway, Gummy Gormley will fight societies evils by slapping a 150€ fine on those who litter our streets. Those who pour untreated slurry on our pastures green, those who with their filth do not keep their wickedness & the obvious laxity of sexual morals which must surely come from such perversion to their squalid hovel-like homes & bring it to the street.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/1001/11....html

by billy Wed Aug 22, 2007 15:57

"I am also the Leader of the Green Party/Comhaontas Glas" who says this -
why its Trevor Sargent - where? -on the Green Party website.
Doesn't it just fill you with confidence!

http://www.greenparty.ie/en/people/trevor_sargent__1

by Captain Planet Tue Aug 21, 2007 21:45

Imagine the streets of Dublin, Limerick or your local village were completely litter free. Imagine for one heart-warming second that your town was a tidy town competitor. Nice feeling, isn't it? No litter, no waste problem. Now bear with me for a brief, seemingly absurd but ultimately logical moment!

I propose that everybody throw their rubbish on the street. Let us thank the less-enlightened of us all for throwing their chewing gum, dutch gold cans and mars bar wrappers beneath our and the tourists' gaze. For by keeping waste visible they're in fact saving us from duping ourselves regarding the bigger picture of waste and environmental degradation. So let's join them! Better to feel the guilt of dropping that litter than suffer the illusion that a tidy street alone is actually doing anything to counter the needless amounts of waste that issue forth from our supermarkets etc. on a daily basis. How many compartmentalised recycling bins are there even in our capital city? Not many - I've been exchanging emails with Dublin City Council about this. So come on everybody!! In sight, in mind! Drop that litter!

by iosaf Tue Jul 24, 2007 14:01

Chekov wrote an excellent opinion piece recently which marked the ascension of the Irish Green party & the culmination of their long desire to enter government entitled "the Greens show their true colours". http://indymedia.ie/article/83347 Alas he didn't actually use the word "slime" which I first suggested as being their true colour back in 2003 in the article entitled "The Eye and the Needle" http://www.indymedia.ie/article/52156 which reflected on an oversight by one member of the current environmental package in the latest Ahern government.
Beyond the UK's media not much interest greeted the decision of the Greens to enter government with not only the party they had campaigned against during the hustings (FF) but also the rump of the party I had always decided to term "un-neccesary to the good governance of Ireland" (the PD's). I recall one article in the UK media mused that considering the general "greeniness" of Irish political culture and symbology one would have expected a party of that name to be in government long ago. By that same infantile analogy one would expect Sinn Fein to be in power.

Recently my attention was brought to improper biographical use of wikipedia (the online encyclopedia which many of us use & some of us even contribute to) during the little bickering bouts which characterised an important movement to sharing action & responsibility and tactics which I'd hope has begun to be made in the last week (meaning linking the links between Tara, Mayo, incinerators & it all).

So I wasn't too surprised to have my attention brought yet again to an "improper" use of wikipedia as regards the subject of that old article "the eye and the needle" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciar%C3%A1n_Cuffe
Oh dear - complaints will be written - editing will be done.

The commentator above like many in Ireland or Europe describe the present political direction and high membership of the "Greens" as neo-con . However, I disagree for a variety of very important reasons. If we run a fine toothed comb (such as Gummy Gormley might have to use on his best suit the day his Oireachtas chair gets sticky) through the economic and geo-political profile of the Slimey Greenies we find they are in fact close to neo-liberalism than neo-conservatism. Indeed Cuffe enjoys a geneological link to RFK, & thus may enjoy better christmas cards from the US democrats than many members of either FF or for that matter the other vanguards of "neo-liberalism" the now forgotten PD's.

I want you to understand - that the Slimey Greenies are not an ecological party - they just have the name by some regrettable opportunism and oversight of the past. I also want you to understand that the US democrat & current geo-political lobby from Hollywood to your local incinerator on "climate change" is led by Al Gore - the man whose personal domestic lighting bill is 9 times the average US citizen's.

I wrote many times in the past that the PD's put the squeeky clean bit in the government which oiled the corruption of FF. We are now to see gummy Gormley & friends put the slimey green in. A clean city is not neccesarily an ecological sustainable one. You may not change society by dictat but by consultation, transparency and honesty.

So Minister Gummy Gormley - before your dail seat gets sticky - consider this:-

* Why don't you instruct the good citizens to seperate chewing gum from other waste and treat it as toxic as a battery?
* Why don't you tell us all about the cost to our environment by hydrocarbon resource by-products?
* Why don't you follow the brave lead of Singapore & just prohibit chewing gum full stop?
* Why don't you just keep your promises???

I reckon it's coz you're down to the gums..,
they'll ooze slimey puss soon.

by Jim O'Sullivan Tue Jul 24, 2007 08:40

How quick the Greens in power have learned the ways of the neo-cons. How foolish we were to expect that a Green Minister might actually tackle the mess that has been created around refuse and litter by the pushing of the privatisation agenda.The introduction of charges and the wholesale privatisation of refuse collection services lies at the heart of the problem. The introduction of fines targets those that are vulnerable and having difficulties coping as it is. Attend any court, particularly where there is a fully privatised refuse service with no waivers in place and what you will see before the courts are those that are struggling to get by. They genuinely struggle to meet the costs involved.
What any Minister would do is to first ensure that every citizen can access a refuse collection service. When is Mr Gormley going to honestly address the issues?

by o as if - (i'm ranting) Mon Jul 23, 2007 18:48

How many people got off smokes by chewing gum? Chewing gum is utterly unbiodegradable but cig filters only take 50 years to break down. Through Europe Green parties in their last wave of junior coalition taste of government have seemed to favour the "make it clean" approach of lowest common denominator popularism. They pour thousands of litres of environmentally unfriendly solvents on the walls in my city to remove graffiti enploying over 80 teams to do so but haven't managed to improve the drainage system the solvents go into. Removing gum from where it is left requires the use of solvents and material which is quite frankly "not eco-friendly". I doubt it will employ enough people to make up for the housing bubble bursting like ill-mannered Violet Beauregarde in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. We don't have anywhere appropriate to put all our hypothetically collected gum anyway. Which is why I'm quite justified and wise in suggesting if "chewing boy Gormley" can't get the corporations to take it back then he should look after all for us. I believe they do this because to be quite honest they need to be seen by the car-drivers who seperate rubbish & vote for them that they're working hard to make it better. Are they bollox.

* In 2005 local authorities in the UK paid £150m a year to clean streets of chewing gum discarded in a 'non-environmentally friendly' way. That's well over a pittance of 2 million euros.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A172342

* Since 1988 Wrigley's have worked on biodegradable chewing gum. No luck - no product. But a US R&D lab came up with a byproduct of ethanol used in bio-fuel tests (for all you greenie car drivers) which biodegrades within three months and doesn't stick like all polymers to the sort of asphalt or tarmac you put on Tara. Your green car still drives on an oil byproduct road. Slime incarnate.

* If you chew too much gum you get Temperomandibular Joint (TMJ) Disorder - which is very painful and makes you look like a coke fiend coz your teeth fall out & your gummy coz the dentists are hiv + & you don't trust em anymore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporomandibular_joint_di...order

He's off to a good start. isn't he? Minister Gummy Gormley.

Unworkable litter fines and bringing our attention to the gum manufacturers whilst the heavy hands of cops, securitymen & builders clatter grass root environmentalists in Mayo and Meath because they've broken their promises & already enjoying the power of flying kites & keeping things secret. If I lived in Dublin I'd stick my gum to his office doors, his party doors, his chair and his hair.... it's in our longterm interest. We need to know how to get rid of this stuff. It's not safe.

There is a wonderful moment in one flew over the cuckoo's nest when Macmurphy discovers to his astonishment that "Chief" can in fact speak - his first words are "juicy fruit". Here's from a bit later on in the 1975 version of the novel by Ken Kesey where Chief decides he's not going to break out but he'll do his best to help all the same :- "they're working on you" http://youtube.com/watch?v=pbdTnR2NxGo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum