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The Shame of Honour Killing

category international | gender and sexuality | news report author Saturday August 26, 2006 17:19author by iosaf Report this post to the editors

The case of Hina Salem whose mutilated body has been recovered from her parents' back garden in Italy reminds us that honour killing is still prevalent in Europe. Just as self-immolation is not a Buddhist tendancy, honour killing has no direct connection to religion. On the contrary such types of murder reflect patriarchial belief systems. The Killers are more often than not fathers or brothers who can not accept life decisions made by their sisters or daughters & thus kill their family members to preserve "honour". Hina was 20 years of age, her body was placed with head facing Mecca after her father and other male family members punished her for co-habitating with her 32 year old boyfriend. Their trial in Brescia near Milan in Italy raises inter-community tensions being pitched not surprisingly as an "Islamic fundementalist" question, considering her father of Pakistani origin came to live in europe in 1996.
Hina Salem was reported missing by her boyfriend earlier this month. Her corpse was found buried in her family's garden.
Hina Salem was reported missing by her boyfriend earlier this month. Her corpse was found buried in her family's garden.

But it is neither about religion nor nationality.

A pan-EU criminal task force was set up in 2003 to deal with the prevelance of such murders. In the UK alone police began re-examination of 52 cases in the London area and 65 in other parts of England and Wales.

In the last years Turkey, as well as world Islamic conferences have condemned such murders. Little wonder, Turkey estimates 200 women die a year this way. In Germany the EU state with the most Turkish migrants police estimate 50 murders in the last 10 years.

The youngest confirmed European victim was a 15 year old girl.

Yet the phenomona shows no sign of abating. The Italian case follows quickly on the recent appeal by a "respected" member of the Dundee (England) muslim community. 54 year old Mohommad Arshad was convicted in 2003 after being found guilty of incitement to murder when he put a price of £1,000 on son-in-law Abdullah Yasin's head. His son-in-law had married his daughter Insha in 2001 against the family's wishes.

I repeat this has little to do with religion. It has everything to do with closed communities and patriarchal family organisation & an inability of community's to examine their values critically. It has not been too long since it was common place in Ireland for wayward daughters to spend their lives in Mary Magdalene homes. Our psichiatric services are still annually condemned by Amnesty International, no wonder - we still have inmates whose only "illness" was disobeying their father or brothers.


 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Patriarchial belief systems...     Feminist    Sat Aug 26, 2006 19:06 
   "Mahmoud" I doubt you're muslim...(prove it & quote the Quran)..this is patriarchy not religion.     iosaf    Sat Aug 26, 2006 19:18 
   Mahmoud     Ali H.    Sat Aug 26, 2006 19:25 
   The Koran on murder     Ali H.    Sat Aug 26, 2006 19:34 
   culture/ethnicity     Feminist    Sat Aug 26, 2006 19:42 
   This is not religious.........I'll take it down a level.........Shrek 2...........     iosaf    Sat Aug 26, 2006 20:04 
   Mahmoud     Tank Girl    Sat Aug 26, 2006 20:07 
   Mahmoud ... 'Respect'?? - that old chestnut.     Niall Harnett.    Sat Aug 26, 2006 20:33 
   I'm making it simple : Honour Killing has nothing to do with : Religion, Race, Class or Nationality.     iosaf    Sat Aug 26, 2006 21:31 
 10   I still think women can be worse than men.     Feminist    Sun Aug 27, 2006 13:17 
 11   I don't think we can ignore that most victims of violence & murder are female.     iosaf    Sun Aug 27, 2006 16:37 
 12   Conditioning     VO5    Sun Aug 27, 2006 19:32 
 13   The usual inaccurate rambling from iosaf     Ever so 'umble    Mon Aug 28, 2006 02:03 
 14   Nach marú é?     Duine    Mon Aug 28, 2006 14:45 
 15   Honour Killing     Tobias    Mon Aug 28, 2006 15:31 
 16   Religion is often co-opted by patriarchy     Ever so 'umble    Mon Aug 28, 2006 16:01 
 17   Honour     Tobias    Mon Aug 28, 2006 17:01 
 18   Tobias, wikipedia is your friend     redjade    Mon Aug 28, 2006 17:24 
 19   Honour     Tobias    Mon Aug 28, 2006 17:46 
 20   Tobias     pat c    Mon Aug 28, 2006 17:55 
 21   the last case in the EU occured in Osuna, Spain last Friday.     iosaf    Mon Aug 28, 2006 18:04 
 22   oh! & the family had been through the local RC marriage counselling service.     iosaf    Mon Aug 28, 2006 18:05 
 23   I knew two girls....     Farmer's wife    Mon Aug 28, 2006 18:10 
 24   one more thing for my devoted critic who this time called himself "Ever so 'umble".     iosaf    Mon Aug 28, 2006 18:37 
 25   respect differences     polku    Mon Aug 28, 2006 18:52 
 26   it's not just "cultural differences". it's an age related but not specific thing.     iosaf    Mon Aug 28, 2006 19:57 
 27   'Killing the wimmin in their families'     hmmm    Mon Aug 28, 2006 22:08 
 28   good objections "hmm" on the nuclear family construct....     iosaf    Tue Aug 29, 2006 17:17 
 29   Related Amnesty International Campaign     Anthony    Tue Aug 29, 2006 22:57 
 30   Dublin Rape Crisis Centre 25 years on.     Stats    Wed Aug 30, 2006 14:48 
 31   I'm aware this forum is "dormant"...     Honor, Adultery and Revenge    Thu May 22, 2008 17:10 


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