Israel's Apartheid Wall : Stop this obscenity, NOW !

by TD - IPSC Fri Aug 18, 2006 23:10

Building 36 is the AMB - in the 11'clock position of "Newcastle road" (text) on map.

by Ali H. Sat Aug 19, 2006 13:23

Israels illegal wall provides no defence against missiles and only serves to steal land from the Palestinians. Eventually even the exceptionally thick Israelis (over 90% backed the war-crimes in Lebanon) will realise they have to treat their neighbours like human beings and withdraw to the green-line.

by Danny Avnery - Gush Shalom Mon Aug 21, 2006 00:49

* The construction of the Israeli “Separation “Wall began on the 16th June 2002. For the most part the barrier, which could eventually extend over 750km, consists of a series of 25 foot high concrete walls, trenches, barbed wire and electrified fencing with numerous watch towers, electronic sensors, thermal imaging and video cameras, unmanned aerial vehicles, sniper towers, and roads for patrol vehicles.

* “The Wall has all the features of a permanent structure. The fact that it will incorporate half of the settler population in the West Bank and East Jerusalem suggests that it is designed to further entrench the position of the settlers. The evidence strongly suggests that Israel is determined to create facts on the ground amounting to de facto annexation”. (Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights, John Dugard)

* The International Court of Justice in the Hague ruled on July 9, 2004 that the wall is contrary to international law and must be dismantled.

* It is set to loop deep into Palestinian occupied territory, embracing clusters of illegal settlements, enclosing much fertile land and important subterranean water reservoirs .

* The Apartheid Wall is central the slow process of ethnic cleansing in occupied Palestine. Already Palestinian businesses have relocated to the east of the Wall. Where the monthly family income in Qalqilya was once $1,000, it is now closer to $60.

* In tandem with the Wall project, there is the Trans-Israel Highway which runs from North to South through a 17% swathe of the West Bank. It has a buffer zone the width of three football pitches on either side. Its creation, as with the Wall, was only possible by the demolition of Palestinian homes and the virtual desertification of Palestinian land.

* “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population,” (Israel’s founding prime minister, David Ben-Gurion)

* “It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion... that there can be no Zionism, colonisation or Jewish state without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” (Ariel Sharon).

by ian whitten Wed Aug 23, 2006 07:09 iwhitten at imagecomsandiego dot com

Israel's security barrier is the most passive defence anyone could put in place. But it wasn't there before the Palestinians launched their terrorist war against Israel women, children, and men in Sept. 2000. While it does not stop rockets or missiles, it does stop human missiles-- the palestinian suicide bombers who have murdered hundreds and mutilated thousands of innocent civilians in the last 6 years. The fence, wall, security barrier--- however you choose to label it according to your agenda-- has been very successful at stopping the onslaught of Palestinian suicide bombers and in fact suicide bombers of all nationalities, religions, races, genders, and sexual preferences. In that sense it is the exact opposite of an "apartheid wall". It is in actuality an " Equal Opportunity Wall" that separates murderous killers from their intended victims. When--not if, but when such attacks reach your shores-- and you can be very sure that it is coming because the killers are amongst you-- your outlook may begin to change.
It is very easy to be smug and self righteous when someone else's children are being blown up on buses as they go to school. It's a little tougher when they are your children.

by LaLa Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:59

Ian would you call the call the concentration camps in Nazi Germany holiday camps ?

by Andy Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:07

Part of the right-wing lunatic's pathology is believing whatever those in power tell him to believe, including wild stories of bomb plots for which there is no evidence. If Israel were not an expansionist state driven by a racist ideology, there would be no trouble in the Middle East. It's astounding that you prefer to spout babble about "terrorism" and "fascism" when these are the very things you are supporting.

by tis all lies Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:18

including wild stories of bomb plots for which there is no evidence.

LOL

Indeed whats a suicide bomber? tis according to the wise person above a figment if Israels imagionation

the amount of unstubstanciated trash that gets posted because some kid believes that they are correct is unreal

EDUCATE YOURSELVES

then comment...

by Andy Wed Aug 23, 2006 13:14

Yes, we all know that suicide bombers materialize out of thin air and aren't caused by anything except Islamist fanaticism. Do you actually believe what you are writing, or do you try to persuade yourself in the hope that someone will employ you as a hack somewhere?

Dropping leaflets on people telling them to evacuate their own country, and then bombing them as they leave, does not count as "terrorism" because Israel does it. Why? Because Israel is funded by the US taxpayer to destabilize the Middle East, and the Torah-bashing fanatics with their American-made weapons of war have always been more than willing to manufacture pretexts to grab lebensraum for their imported population. All you need to do is convert to Judaism.

by JIHAD LOVERS Wed Aug 23, 2006 17:18

Wiig and Centanni US Hostages In Video Plea
Updated: 15:49, Wednesday August 23, 2006

Two US television journalists kidnapped in Gaza nine days ago have appealed for help to secure their release.

The pair, who work for Fox News, made the plea in a video released by their captors.

They were snatched by a previously unknown group called the Holy Jihad Brigades.

They are demanding the release of all Muslim prisoners held by America within 72 hours.

"Release what you have, and we will release what we have," it said in a fax to reporters.

Fox correspondent Steve Centanni and cameraman Olaf Wiig were seized by masked gunmen in Gaza City on August 14.

In the video, the pair said they were being treated well by their captors.

Both called for pressure to be put on the Palestinian government to obtain their release.

by Ali Wed Aug 23, 2006 20:35

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Dropping leaflets on people telling them to evacuate their own country, and then bombing them as they leave, does not count as "terrorism" because Israel does it."

LOL!!! The Israelis should do what hezbollah does. Close their eyes and just fire missiles will nilly.

by Topper Wed Aug 23, 2006 21:09

Is there a rule-book, somewhere, that says that pro-Israel fanatics have to keep writing "LOL" and add in loads of exclamation marks when they excuse terrorist attacks on civilians? Just wondering

by Ali Wed Aug 23, 2006 21:24

"Is there a rule-book, somewhere, that says that pro-Israel fanatics have to keep writing "LOL" and add in loads of exclamation marks when they excuse terrorist attacks on civilians?"

LOL!!! Dropping leaflets as forwarning of an impending attack is considerd "terrorism". While shooting missiles without aiming them, at civilian areas (many occupied by Arabs) is considered "resistence" LOL!!!!!!

by Topper Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:01

6 exclamation marks! Saints preserve us. The man is clearly deranged.

It's helpful though - the fact that you keep writing "LOL" lets everyone know that you find the killing of innocent people hilarious, while the constant exclamation marks lets them know how crazy you are. It's the equivalent of shrieking in a high-pitched voice and laughing like a maniac.

by Ali Thu Aug 24, 2006 16:40

"It's helpful though - the fact that you keep writing "LOL" lets everyone know that you find the killing of innocent people hilarious, while the constant exclamation marks lets them know how crazy you are. It's the equivalent of shrieking in a high-pitched voice and laughing like a maniac."

LOL!!! Focusing on exclamation marks is a fabulous distraction from the fact the Hezbollah purposely fired missiles into populated areas (including those occupied by prescious Arabs-killing several- woops sorry, thanks for being martyrs)

So big bad Israel is cruel for warning civilians that an attack was impending.
Great logic. Had the israelis NOT dropped leaflets, you would be screaming "Why didn't the Isra-ay-lees warn the civilians!!!!??!!!! (or something to that idiotic effect)

LOL!!!!!!!! (there are eight exclamation marks, because of the absurdity of "peace" activists supporting the likes of fascist Hezbollah)

by Topper Thu Aug 24, 2006 17:53

The rabid dog continues to rave. I'm sure it's very convenient for you to tell your debating opponents what they believe, it saves you the trouble of actually engaging with their arguments. And it's even better when you give yourself the authority to decide what facts we are allowed to consider, and what facts must be swept under the carpet.

Anyway, those with eyes to see, can see. Fanatics can continue to froth at the mouth all they like. To repeat: writing "LOL" repeatedly and jabbering away with half-a-dozen exclamation marks makes you sound like a silly, hysterical child who thinks the killing of innocent people is a joke. I'd say this is a fair description of what you actually are, so thanks for making that clear to everyone.

by Ali Thu Aug 24, 2006 18:26

"The rabid dog continues to rave."

LOL!!! Still avoiding the topic with the silly distraction. The "wall" saves lives on both sides. And Hezbollah is a fundamentalist fascist organization, anti-peace, anti-gay, anti-women....and this it what garners your support because of the Je...er, I mean Zionists live in the nerighborhood.

by Ali H. Thu Aug 24, 2006 19:48

Dropping leaflets warning people that they will be bombed if they stay and then bombing them anyway when they are complying as the Israelis did is a war-crime.

Equally bombing roads, bridges and ambulanes which would allow medical assistance to be delivered is equally a war-crime.

If you LOL about this type of behaviour then you are obviously a myopic facist pig.

by Ali Fri Aug 25, 2006 00:30

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Equally bombing roads, bridges and ambulanes which would allow medical assistance to be delivered is equally a war-crime."

LOL!!!
Those aren't war crimes, that's WAR. Roads and bridges are bombed for obvious reasons. The ambulance attack was a Hezbollywood hoax.

But, the israelis have film of hezbollah "warriors" using ambulances to make their getaway after firing missiles.

Hezbollah should have anticipated the concequences of their actions.

**note to islamic freedom fighters: Druing a war, both sides get to shoot.
Intifada out...