South Dakota makes abortion illegal

by nohwanka Wed Mar 08, 2006 03:39

first of all paltrow is not a native surname so i do not hink she is native or speaks for natives!!!!!! a majority of south dakota officals passed a bill that was signed by the governor, that is democracy. those officals would not put their jobs on the line by voting for something that their people would vote them out for doing, so i assume that thet represent their people. and i would like to point out that maybe now we can go back into the courts and sue the doctors who forced abortion and miscarriages and removal of female sex organs on indian reservations ....trying to elimanate indians from south dakota thru that horrible way.

paltrow is not lakota! up the independent lakota nation! and bless their women and children. paltrow, go back to europe and leave the native people's lands

by pen Wed Mar 08, 2006 05:26

The US is a patriarchy - abortion is a gender issue - what male can understand the pain of a conception resulting from rape, incest or violence?

The old dangerous men who rule the US must be aborted from office.

It is an issue for women - and the debate on a group of cells is absurd - what makes a human is SENTIENCE/Self-consciousness - that occurs way down the developmental track.

by D'oh! Wed Mar 08, 2006 20:13

"Paltrow is executive director of the National Advocates for Pregnant Women in New York City. Asetoyer is executive director of the Native American Women's Health and Education Resource Center in South Dakota." i.e. TWO women wrote the piece. ALSO, Nowanka should know that few native americans still have native american names - no more than few Irish people still have Irish names.

The issue is - should women have a right to self-determination, to decide what to do with their own bodies? If the answer is not when they are pregnant, then all heterosexual or bi-sexual men have to ask themselves would they be happy to risk having their body taken over for nine months as a result of every (hetero) sexual experience??

by CA Girl Thu Mar 09, 2006 02:23

Any woman who has ever been pregnant knows they have a baby in there - a person. When you go in for your very first appointment - the heart is beating, the baby is moving - you can see it, hear it. Unless you blind and deaf there is no way you can show up for that 6-8 wk appt. and say there is not something ALIVE in there.

I, as a woman, am very sick and tired of seeing people put more attention into protecting the welfare of stray animals in our society than they do our own children - who are of a lot more worth than some animal.

I really hope that this is the beginning of a turn around for Roe vs. Wade. I hope abortion becomes illegal in every state. I hope lots of Dr's and "mother's" are arrested for performing and having abortions. I hope that these people finally are made to pay for all the killing they have been doing.

They say that it is a choice - that women have the right to choose to have an abortion because it is their body. I think the choice they have is whether they get laid or not. 99% of all abortions are elected for because the woman says "oops, forgot to use a condom" and she has a pregnancy that doesn't fit in with her life goals. Well, tough crap! deal with it. You chose to get screwed, your baby didn't choose to have a lame mother who can't keep her legs shut. Be a responsible adult, suck it up, and be a parent to that child or adopt it to someone who will do a heck of a lot better job than you. Lots of people want babies and they can't even have them.

I know a lot of guys personally who have had their girlfriends get abortions when they really wanted that baby. They are having something taken from them and they CARE about it. It hurts them and they don't just move on and forget. Neither do a lot of the women who have abortions.

I think it is about time America woke up and protected its unborn.

by Activist Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:28

International Women's Day 2006 was marked on campus by UCD
Alliance for Choice, who disributed leaflets at lunchtime calling for
free, safe and legal abortion on demand. UCD Alliance for Choice also challenged state censorship by defiantly breaking the 1995
Information Act, which restricts Irish people's access to information
about abortion services abroad. This legislation has serious
implications for the protection of women's welfare when they are
faced with a crisis pregnancy. UCD Alliance for Choice also heavily
criticised the UCDSU for refusing to make such information readily
available to it's members, despite a referendum passed in 1993 which states, "That UCD Students' Union shall provide non-directive
counselling and information on all pregnancy options, including
abortion, both verbally and in union publications".

by Niav - BODY/AFC Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:49

I absolutely hate this “If you don’t want a baby then don’t have sex” attitude from anti-choice activists. It’s an attitude that says if women have sex, they must pay the consequences. This attitude stems from people that believe sex is bad and pregnancy is some form of punishment for having sex. Face facts – people have sex. It is completely unrealistic to encourage abstinence.

On the issue of contraception, perhaps we should remember that contraceptives are not always 100% effective (for a variety of reasons). Many people do not have access to contraception due to the high cost. For example, it costs 40 euros just to visit a doctor to obtain a prescription for the pill. Condoms are taxes at the higher rate of tax, therefore making them a ‘luxury good’. Last year in its annual report the Crisis Pregnancy Agency announced that several chemists across the country would not sell contraceptives due to moral objections.

99% of women do not have an abortion because they can’t be arsed using a condom! What about crisis pregnancies that are a result of rape or sexual abuse? What about pregnancies that become crisis pregnancies when women discover severe foetal abnormalities?

by Activist Thu Mar 09, 2006 14:24

The full text of the leaflet distributed by the UCD Alliance For Choice is at the link below.

by D'oh Thu Mar 09, 2006 20:04

The anti-abortion brigade are basically anti-sex. The idea that women can go through thirty years of sexual activity in their child-bearing years and welcome every pregnancy smacks of 1950s attitudes. We ARE more than our biology. As for the idea that the embryo at 6-8 weeks is a PERSON - it's not even considered a foetus yet! How many women who would never dream of having an abortion go to great lengths in the first couple of weeks that their period is late to try to 'bring on' their period? How many take hot baths, or jump off tables lift heavy weights etc as my mother told me she did during several of her many pregnancies? These women are acknowledging that whatever is going on inside their body, there is NOT a person there.