US "rendition" for torture illegal under UK law. Is it legal here?

by R. Isible Thu Jan 19, 2006 18:57

Including one conducted by the Occupation Authorities (who presumably didn't spin the poll so that they'd get the answer that the occupation was unpopular!) which showed that 82% of Iraqis disapproved of the troops and a CNN/Gallup poll which found that 57% of Iraqis wanted the troops out IMMEDIATELY. Do some reading around for yourself and stop just asking questions which you can find the answer to yourself.

by rob Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:58

"according to recent authoritative opinion polls, wanted an end to the occupation."

What polls? and how was the question framed? for example did the respondents want and end to the occupation straight away or only after other variables are taken in to account?

by None so blind as those that refuse to see Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:52

Richard Boyd Barrett last night asked Dr Noam Chomsky if he would agree that, as a result, the Government was complicit with state terrorism, war crimes and breaches of international human rights. He also asked Dr Chomsky if he would endorse worldwide demonstrations on March 18th-19th for withdrawal of US-led forces from Iraq.

"The second one is easier to answer - yes." He said this would mean supporting "the overwhelming majority of the population of Iraq" which, according to recent authoritative opinion polls, wanted an end to the occupation.

On Shannon issue, he said: "I can only respond conditionally. I don't know the facts. But if what you say is correct, and if in fact even a part of it is correct, yes, that's participation in what was declared at Nuremberg to be 'the supreme international crime which encompasses within itself all of the evil that follows'. Participation in that is, yes, a crime. And from then on, it's your business."

by painter not talker Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:30

Under international human rights law, the onus is on the government and Gardai to look for proof. They have not done this despite a number of criminal complaints. Diplomatic assurances are not enough on this one.

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by BRD Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:29

Is the benchmark for a conviction in a court, not the criteria for starting an investigation.

It IS beyond reasonable doubt that: -

the same aircraft that have been involved in snatches and torture allegations around the world , have refuelled in Shannon.

that the aircraft are not carrying military nor diplomatic insignia

that the govt and the cops do not want to look inside.

by justice 4 all Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:25

Well where is the proof? Seeing a plane isnt proof... show me the prisoners... oh wait they arent there....

Beyond reasonable doubt people, familiarize yourselves with it

by painter not talker Thu Jan 19, 2006 15:23

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Nothing to see here just passing through