How the Irish and "non-Irish" voted and "not voted" in the Westminster Election

by ribbid ribbid Sun May 08, 2005 14:54

The resignations of Howard and Trimble mark a generational change and signal the final end to a partnership between the Conservative and Unionist party of Great Britain (its official stationary title) and the UUP. As Howard goes so do the last vestiges of Thatcher's cabinet and as Trimble leaves, so does the now spent rebellion and move to increased confrontation as the OUP became the UUP in the last decades. (almost two now). at one point a conservative government relied on its sister organisation's (the ulster unionists') votes at Westminister to govern. The legacy they leave is in the case of the Conservatives a small return from the delagation to rump English nationalism which left them without scottish representation, and in the case of the UUP is the consequences of the manner in which Trimble came to lead.
New Labour for their part, have never moved from their cherished core iffyness in relation to the "union" that most peculiar of concepts that ties that component nations and historical cultural memories to that one crown. And if the DUP the "doomsday cult" of no return to joint government had few friends amongst the tories, they have less amongst New Labour, whose attempts at deft spinning in the "cool britannia" mould of ethnic plurality failed as much as the shadowy playing of Mandelson. Where to now for the ideologues of "unionism"? This election was fought and voted upon with "constitutional" questions to the fore as any northern ireland election is; but also as has been most definitely observed throughout europe, a move to the left. The mix of history and geography, now moves to the mix of geography and doomsday cult. Perhaps a solution would be after all to peereagure all the DUP to the lords in one go, and call another election and yet another till more suitable representatives of those geographic and mindset constituencies appear to fill their places and become just a wee bit more like either britain or ireland. For there are many newcomers and migrants, and languages and songs to hear. Europe's voters are moving to the left on economic questions very slowly, and New Labour doesn' represent that, it is the government of the UK, the rules don't allow for much change there. But many european regions are returning representatives who may be "left" on economics but "intrasigent" on notions of identity, nationality, which "working class" they represent, and what exactly it has to say on the "birthcert" for inclusion in the constituency. Thus was the pattern though with a very different backdrop which darkened europe and indeed helped create the northern ireland statelet in the XX century. We are moving to answer many of these questions. Plurinationality, pluri-culturalism and rights have to play a part in the pan-european strategic response to these "right wing nationality" left wing parties.

by ribbid ribbid ribbid Sun May 08, 2005 11:02

& former barrista at the salt hill café del sol discotheque blames irish voters and (in a muttered aside) Michael mcdowell for his loss of seat.
Michael keen readers will remember, was once a barrista too, before being picked from obscurity after a beauty contest at the once popular Galway sea-side resort, where he used to supplement his meagre wages by performing under the stage name "big swinging mickey". There's certainly a lot of water under the bridge now.
It is true that voters in the marginal constituency of fulham and hackney tired of seeing irish bars and tricolours flying on the streets left the history party in droves to vote for the rival "doomsday cult", but without a doubt, the finger of suspicion points at mcdowell.

Had Mcdowell not gone to the belfast mindset constituency to campaign for the trilateral dub reggae party, the results would have been very different, David ulstervolks Trimble would still have his seat, and his party would still have a mindset.

For his part the newly elected and listening attentively PM of engurlund, scoaturlund, cymru and east of the Bann, is sure to recommend Trimble to be peereragurued in the Halloween honour lists.

This is official. Accordingly "that bastard" Kevin "the oik" Myers has used up his weekly column space to talk about school discipline problems in Hampshire and hasn't let a word be published on the elections. You can't get more official than that.

The new secretary of state for east of the bann, Peter Hain, moves to belfast next week after a succesful period editing the popular magzine "la haine" previously he was a skinhead with a walk-in part in a movie of the same name. he will thus be a "tough" secretary of state.

stiff upper lip rather than lower bann

by deco Sun May 08, 2005 00:38

The SEA had an ineresting poster out for the local election in Derry, showing the 5 guys in distinctly macho posture facing the camera, reminiscint of the A Team.

Why were no women on the team guys? Dod you "forget"?

by - Sat May 07, 2005 12:21

Threads on the plethora of ulsterscots discussion websites have focussed on the demise of former Salt Hill Café del Sol discotheque barista David Trimble of the History party's defeat, and are examining the advantages and disadvantages of a Lord Paisley.

Sending the Rev, Dr, Ian Paisley, mp and member of the NI assembly, to the upper house of Westminister, would afford HMG an opportunity to give him a crap name like everyone else. Baron Paisley of Shankill might be offensive to some, but she has a great sense of humour. It could however send the *wrong message*, previous peers from the geographic and mindset constituencies of Eire east of Donegal have come from the Trilateral Dub Reggae party and of course the History party. They have been peeraguered "for their service to the British people" whereas "the dr" of the "doomsday cult" has made a career in protecting an abstract protestant crown rather than furthering the most peaceful intent of the British peoples.
It might not really get him out of the way either, and at very least would seem one-sided were the geography party not to be offered a peerage as well, refusing a title like "Lord Adams of the Falls" might look very good on the CV in the states.

by ribbid ribbid moo moo woof woof Sat May 07, 2005 08:11

has begun his new expense account by demanding seats in the house of Lords for the doomsday cult.
Robinson is known as the medium who handles most communication from the mythical towering figure known as "the doctor", who for a variety of reasons never says anything beyond monosylabic expletives (beginning in N!). Presently David "ulster volk good with an umbrella in a riot" Trimble's party has 9 lords, and the "doomsday cult" have none.
Keen readers will note we indicated the scuppering of David "uv" Trimble in the election special "Prime Minister of Her Majesty's Govurnmunt of Engurland, Cymru, Scoaturlund and wee Ulster."
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69698

The presence of "doomsday cult" peers could have long lasting effects however on the reform of the upper house which might shake the party of meritocracy (New Labour) to its core iffyness. For one thing, the "doomsday cult" are vehemently sober, and some middle ranking members took part in the early days of prohibition in Chicago, breaking open barrels of bourbon to the slogan -"No! No! to the cathurlik king's liquor!" Though a long time ago, one youngster from an ancient family was reported today as commenting "there's some very delicious single malt in the house, and we do seem to have an arrangement which works well, Irish peers can thrown condoms at the PM from their gallery but not in any other way participate in the house, the malt is very welcome afterwardsI think its something to do with Kaiser Willhelm, I'd hope the "doomsday cult" would not change that".
In contrast a senior Irish Westminster commentator "that bastard" Kevin "the oik" Myers, is reported to have seen a last minute inclusion in this year's "open letter to the Buildeberg Commision from Vaclav Havel" insisting that the previous Irish alliance in the Westminister Lords between the "spidermen, supercaped poetic wonders and pointy teeth predators" end in time for VE day celebrations. (next tuesday). The Oik has also pointed out that "the Dr" has saved the exchequer a lot of money by using his kids as office staff instead of taking on Lahndin based ulsterscots/english translators and interpreters. Indeed Paisley claimed on £79,010 in total expenses 2003-2004 ranking him the 6th cheapest MP in all the realms.


http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4520734

the "dr" of the "doomsday cult" to bring sobriety for Ireland & Ulster to the House of Lords?

by election pundit Fri May 06, 2005 22:29

Assembly elections were with PR this election is First Past the Post so this might explain some of the decline of the vote also there was a very close election betwnn SF and the SDLP

by News Fri May 06, 2005 21:28

Eamonn McCann SEA candidate in Foyle got 1,649 votes 3.6%. This is a drop from the Assembly elections when he got 2,257 votes 5.5%