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Courts martial of UK soldiers over abuse of Iraqi prisoners
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Tuesday January 18, 2005 22:10 by Phuq Hedd
Guardian newspaper report of confession by one soldier The Guardian carries a quiet little story about how one of the UK soldiers being court martialled over abuse of Iraqi prisoners admits to being "ashamed". At this stage we have several confirmed reports of abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US and UK forces despite these having been dismissed as "photoshopped images" or "black propaganda" or other "I don't believe it if I don't see it with my own eyes because we're on the side of Democracy and Freedom" denials. |
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Jump To Comment: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1The metods used by the american soldiers at Abu Arib are far different from the Mossad / Shabak methods;
Read the Betselem reports and compare.
You don't have to stick Israel to EVERYTHING.
Continuing coverage in the Guardian. Makes the point that the accused clearly say that they were "just following orders". The person posting above as "Noel" should note that one of the accused has already admitted that he is ashamed of his actions.
The article also makes the point that taking pictures of prisoners is another violation of the Geneva Convention.
The tactics used by the US and UK "soldiers" in Iraq are those used by Mossad and Israeli experience of how to degrade Muslims in detention has been transferred as part of tri-partite security cooperation.
The methods as we well know go well beyond "putting knickers on peoples heads" and Iraqis have been MURDERED in both US and UK custody.
Far from "devaluing" words like genocide and torture, setting high standards, AND MAINTAINING THEM is crucial to the functioning of democracies.
The fact that the US, UK and Israel use these methods and get away with it by obfuscation, omission or simplistic relativism shows the sorry state these "democracies" are in, and gives encouragement to every tin-pot dictator that he will not be caught or even prosecuted if he is as long as he stays onside with the US/K!
I suppose the reason they can't bring themselves to call it torture is that this devalues the word.
Much like the words Holocaust and Genocide have been hijacked and used inappropriately to describe much lesser horrors.
If you call what happened at Abu Ghraib post Saddam as torture, what then do you call what happened when Saddam was in power?
The grisly scenes in this link are a far cry from Iraqis with knickers on their heads or getting carried around by forklift.
No way out of this one. It's not just the Gaurdian. The BA believe it too, otherwise they would not have brought the soldiers before a court martial.
just hope for the Gaurdians sake that these pics are genuine and not some stupid idiots idea of a joke or sensationislism with staged pics as happened last time around.The camera is lying like fuck these days.
They just cant bring themselves to say TORTURE can they?
It's always "abuse of prisoners" or "maltreatment of Iraqi's"
The word is TORTURE.