Labour Party, Shannon, Future Coalition

by Michael Mon Nov 22, 2004 15:28

Observer asked: "As for Labour's integrity being dependnet on "us". How? What can anyone do to prevent any party in power doing as they please?"

In a word: organise.

by pc Mon Nov 22, 2004 15:20

??? it was a genuine question... I simply don't believe him....

by D Sun Nov 21, 2004 20:44

".......'an unequivical yes', would he answer so unequivically to a wider audience?"


Pat has answered this question repeatedly He's answered it in front of the media, in front of party members and non-members alike.



This site has been ruined by nameles abuse, sly pot-sots and petty point scoring

by observer Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:55

Firstly, Labour will do whatever they have to in order to stay in power with the blueshirts as they have always done. Spring pulled the plug on Reynolds and FF in 1994 because one of his mates didn't get a plum job and perhaps due to murkier reasons around the peace process. Rabbitte is even less trustworthy as evidenced by his own political history. The only thing he beleives in is himself and his career. As for Labour's integrity being dependnet on "us". How? What can anyone do to prevent any party in power doing as they please?

by pc Fri Nov 19, 2004 03:55

an in government labour party would be pressured to fudge over this issue, he only saying that cos hes in 'opposition'

'an unequivical yes', would he answer so unequivically to a wider audience?

by Michael Thu Nov 18, 2004 18:49

If Labour go into government with FG they'll have all sorts of pressure from the right, that's obvious. How steady they stand against this pressure depends on us -- you and me -- over here on the left.

by Manus - lp Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:59

If FG where to put the foot down on the issue of Shannon , it is questionable whether the LP would push for the withdrawal of US troops. The Indecisive nature of the party lately makes it hard to judge, but the 'play it safe policy' which will mean (and has been the case) little if any radical policy pronouncements in the run up to the next election, (in case they may scare off the centre/FG vote) doesn’t give those advocating a withdrawal of facilities much confidence.

Look at the short thrift Deputy D. Higgins got, they didn't want him rocking the boat in the advance of a cosy pact with FG. Imagine Michael D getting the airwaves for 2 months, you wouldn't know what left wing statements he might make. No doubt much of this would have been in sharp contrast to the beliefs of FG, in particular their foreign and international policies. Furthermore if FG were in power at the moment, there would be Irish Forces in Iraq at the moment, with the likes of Mr. Deasy as Minister for Defence!

by Seamus Costello Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:39

If you believe a word out of that man's mouth.

by Susan Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:22

At a public meeting in UCD hosted by the Labour Party Pat Rabbitte was asked if Labour was in government would they stop the use of Shannon by the U.S. military. He unequivocally answered yes.

by pc Wed Nov 17, 2004 23:25

as clear as mud