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Labour Party, Shannon, Future Coalition

category national | anti-war / imperialism | news report author Wednesday November 17, 2004 17:43author by eeekkkkk Report this post to the editors

simple question / having your cake and eating it reply

Saw Rodger Cole coments about Shannon/elections/Votes etc so for the crack I mailed in this question for Pat Rabbite after a phonecall to the Labour Party press office. I think it speaks for itsself.

Hi XXXXXX,

Question for Pat Rabbite as discussed on the phone.

Will the Labour Party be making the withdrawal of the use of Shannon by the US Military a precondition of entry into any future coalition government?

Thanks,

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (1 of indymedia.ie)

Verbatim e- mail Reply:

Quote from Labour Spokesperson

"The Labour Party is opposed to the use of Shannon Airport by the US Military for the purposes of the illegal war on Iraq.

Labour is totally opposed to the use of Shannon by the US, or any other, military for military purposes not sanctioned by the United Nations.

No negotiations have begun with any other political party on agreeing a platform before the next General Election.

However, the Labour Party will make our position on this issue absolutely clear when that time comes."

author by pcpublication date Wed Nov 17, 2004 23:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

as clear as mud

author by Susanpublication date Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

At a public meeting in UCD hosted by the Labour Party Pat Rabbitte was asked if Labour was in government would they stop the use of Shannon by the U.S. military. He unequivocally answered yes.

author by Seamus Costellopublication date Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If you believe a word out of that man's mouth.

author by Manus - lppublication date Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If FG where to put the foot down on the issue of Shannon , it is questionable whether the LP would push for the withdrawal of US troops. The Indecisive nature of the party lately makes it hard to judge, but the 'play it safe policy' which will mean (and has been the case) little if any radical policy pronouncements in the run up to the next election, (in case they may scare off the centre/FG vote) doesn’t give those advocating a withdrawal of facilities much confidence.

Look at the short thrift Deputy D. Higgins got, they didn't want him rocking the boat in the advance of a cosy pact with FG. Imagine Michael D getting the airwaves for 2 months, you wouldn't know what left wing statements he might make. No doubt much of this would have been in sharp contrast to the beliefs of FG, in particular their foreign and international policies. Furthermore if FG were in power at the moment, there would be Irish Forces in Iraq at the moment, with the likes of Mr. Deasy as Minister for Defence!

author by Michaelpublication date Thu Nov 18, 2004 18:49author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If Labour go into government with FG they'll have all sorts of pressure from the right, that's obvious. How steady they stand against this pressure depends on us -- you and me -- over here on the left.

author by pcpublication date Fri Nov 19, 2004 03:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

an in government labour party would be pressured to fudge over this issue, he only saying that cos hes in 'opposition'

'an unequivical yes', would he answer so unequivically to a wider audience?

author by observerpublication date Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Firstly, Labour will do whatever they have to in order to stay in power with the blueshirts as they have always done. Spring pulled the plug on Reynolds and FF in 1994 because one of his mates didn't get a plum job and perhaps due to murkier reasons around the peace process. Rabbitte is even less trustworthy as evidenced by his own political history. The only thing he beleives in is himself and his career. As for Labour's integrity being dependnet on "us". How? What can anyone do to prevent any party in power doing as they please?

author by Dpublication date Sun Nov 21, 2004 20:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

".......'an unequivical yes', would he answer so unequivically to a wider audience?"


Pat has answered this question repeatedly He's answered it in front of the media, in front of party members and non-members alike.



This site has been ruined by nameles abuse, sly pot-sots and petty point scoring

author by pcpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 15:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

??? it was a genuine question... I simply don't believe him....

author by Michaelpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 15:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Observer asked: "As for Labour's integrity being dependnet on "us". How? What can anyone do to prevent any party in power doing as they please?"

In a word: organise.

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