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 Thursday September 23, 2004 18:34 by Mark Grehan - Residents Against Racism residentsagainstracsim at eircom dot net 12a Brunswick place, Dublin 2 087 7974622 or 087 6662060
 Minutes of an organising meeting for a campaign against the deportation of irish Children Next meeting this saturday at 2 o'clock in the Teachers club. Minutes of an organising meeting for a campaign against the deportation of Irish children
Venue: Teachers' Club Attendance: Over twenty people attended, including a group from Longford. Apologies were received from Cork and Galway. 1. Proposals for campaign and demonstration. Mark introduced two proposals suggested by Residents Against Racism. 1) That a campaign should be organised to demand amnesty for the thousands of families facing deportation, despite having Irish children. 2) That a demonstration should be called on the 29th September to coincide with the re-opening of the Dáil. 2. Legal background to demand for amnesty Ola gave a brief introduction on the legal situation following the January 2003 Supreme Court decision on residence rights. McDowell has clearly reneged on his promise to deal with each case individually and the number of deportations has increased significantly since the Citizenship Referendum on 11th June of this year. Despite the fact that many families were told to withdraw their asylum applications when their children were born, none of them have got letters giving them residence rights. There is an urgent need to find a solution to the problem because of the number of deportation letters being received. Already some Irish children have been deported along with their parents. Families outside Dublin often have difficulty gaining access to legal expertise and it was agreed that there is a need to set up support groups like RAR outside the larger urban areas. 3. Campaign proposals After detailed discussion, a draft leaflet was agreed which would be used to enlist support for the demonstration and the subsequent campaign. Andreas will finalise the text and email it to the RAR and CARR lists for final approval. It was also agreed to cooperate with finding information for a series of Parliamentary Questions to the Minister for Justice about all the families with Irish children born before the Supreme Court judgement date. A group of TDs and trade union leaders who supported the demonstration at the Department of Health and Children have also agreed to set up an anti-deportation lobby group. Other efforts will also be undertaken to enlist the help of opposition TDs in highlighting the reality of deportations. Some individuals will lodge an appeal to the Human Rights Commission to launch an enquiry into the deportations and how they are conducted. 4. Future organisation It was agreed that there was no need to have a separate group and that organisation would continue to be coordinated by RAR. However, organising meetings for the campaign against deportations would be held separately to regular RAR meetings. A media campaign will focus on expanding opposition to deportations in areas outside Dublin, especially in Longford where there is already organised< anti-racist activity. 5. Next meeting The next meeting will be held in the Teachers' Club on Saturday, 25th September. 6. Protest A protest is being organised for Wednesday 29th September, the first day back for the Dáil after the summer break. The protest will commence by gathering at the Central Bank at 12.30 where the crowd will be addressed by several speakers. A march will commence up to the Dail where the crowd will gather and be addressed by several speakers. |
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Does this not say everything about the sheer arrogance of your position?
Where is your proof that cases are not decided individually?
Why have you chosen to ignore the fact that cases for asylum were allowed to be re-submitted?
These are the cases where the applicants were supposedly told to drop their cases - yet - not one civil servant has been identified that told them so. Why exactly is that?
That person would be subject to disciplinary procedures for abritrarily terminating the claim yet no-one has been identified.
Please answer this one simple question. What is the point of determing asylum/citizenship claims if the outcome is the same - ie no deportations?
It's like having courts but no fines or prison.
So argue for the dismantling of our laws, courts or the asylum process but don't insult our intelligence by defending those that enter our country illegally, employ those very institutions to prolong that stay and fail to substantiate a legitimate claim to their presence in this country.
Tony you have ranted on for several sentences with absolute no care for either the truth or for a valid argument, all your points have been exposed as fallacies numerous times before on this site. Either research your facts or go back to stormfront!
What point are you addressing?
Personal insult is fine. The moderators will look after that.
I await a response to my points as they remain unchallenged now and in the past.
Those who came out with inaccurate and hystrionic arguments in the recent referendum might do well to take a look at a country where there truly is a strict citizenship policy, not the laissez-faire chaos that McDowell began (only began) to address.
Voters in Switzerland voted in referendum this weekend to continue to deny citizenship even to Swiss-born grandchildren (!) of migrant workers. I think that's a bit tough, but at least it shows that they value their citizenship more than the No crowd did here.
Thanks for that Sean.
According to the link:
About one in five of the 7.2 million people living in Switzerland are noncitizens — high by European standards because Swiss so hard to get. Foreigners have to wait at least 12 years. Swiss-born children — and even grandchildren — of immigrants do not automatically qualify.
The relaxing of this has been rejected.
Puts our prospective laws into perspective as once again, unneccessarily lax and subject to change if a similar situation is re-enacted here.
Your arguments have been dealt with numerous times on this website as regular viewers will already now. As for using this website for your irrelevant, ill informed and outright scandalous lies it just shows how bad this website has got. Giving Switzerland as an example how pathetic. We are a sovereign nation and as a sovereign nation we can act upon our own best interests not the idiotic parliamentarianism of another country. Just because Germany began exterminating the jewish race did not make it okay. I am sick and tired of idiotic arguments from bar stool patriots such as yourselves.
Just because Utter Idiot is too sick and tired to advance these arguments, it is better to invoke the old Hitler line.
The fuhrer would also love the smoking ban but I don't hear much talk about that.
Advance your arguments or get lost. Your wasting bandwidth with your childish rants.
... We are a sovereign nation and as a sovereign nation we can act upon our own best interests...
You're right, and therefore not completely deserving of the name you gave yourself (Utter Idiot).
The people are sovereign. Hope the NO crowd remember that 80% of the sovereign people told them they didn't buy their lies & hystrionics.
Sean Dowling and Tony are the same people how pathetic trying to pretend there are more of you. shame!
I must deny this statement that Sean and I are the same person.
However, the probability that there is only one, pathetic, utter idiot is rising rapidly.