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Party compiles own list of IRA activity as political talks loom

category international | rights, freedoms and repression | news report author Monday July 19, 2004 00:35author by Roosterauthor address Dungannon Report this post to the editors

THE DUP is compiling its own list of paramilitary activity over the summer, ahead of renewed political talks in the autumn.

It is understood party leaders want their own list, as they don't trust Government figures on IRA activity.

Senior party figures were not prepared to make any public comment about the exercise.

But Sunday Life has learned that DUP members, police officers, prison officers and any members of the public who have received threats or suffered intimidation, are being encouraged to contact the party over the summer.

Expectations are growing in Government circles that the DUP will conclude a political deal with Sinn Fein, following the renewed negotiations in the autumn. But ahead of those talks, one senior DUP source said the party would rely on its own information to establish the level of IRA - and other paramilitary - activity.

"We'll be examining IRA and loyalist paramilitary activity, but our primary focus will be on the actions of the IRA.

"We want to know about every police officer, every prison officer and every member of the public who is forced from their home, or warned that their details are in the hands of the IRA, in every constituency.

"We're now compiling these details, and we would urge those who have been warned that they are under threat from the IRA, to contact the offices of our MPs or our MLAs, or get a relative to contact us, so we can record these events.

"We're not going to rely on the statistics, nor the words of the Northern Ireland Office nor Downing Street, because we don't trust them.

"We will compile our own statistics, and make our judgments on those facts."

In a separate probe, DUP MLA William Hay has been told by assistant chief constable Sam Kinkaid that, in the last 12 months, 38 PSNI officers were informed of "threats of significance" against them.

Loyalists were behind 13 of the threats, 23 were made by dissident republicans, and two by the Provos.

In the same period, 160 officers were informed that their personal details had been compromised.

Mr Hay said: "Many officers feel there is a lack of resources from the Government to deal with the implications of these threats, and they are concerned at the time it takes for the PSNI to assess the gravity of the risk they face."

Another DUP Policing Board member, Sammy Wilson, has asked Chief Constable Hugh Orde to detail the number of police, prison officers and civilians who have been warned, since the beginning of the year, that they are at risk from paramilitary attack.

Mr Orde said he would provide these details in September.

Last week, Ian Paisley jnr said police must act against Provo figures who threaten other people on the streets.

He was speaking after the brother of murdered UFF terrorist, Raymond Elder, claimed he was pursued in the Boucher Road area of Belfast by a known Provo, who was wielding a hammer.

Mr Paisley said it wasn't an adequate response for police to say there was "nothing they could do", when IRA threats were reported to them.

author by good grief.publication date Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

filled with neighbours each holding a clip board and questionaire jumping over the garden fence, trampling the privet, knocking on each others doors. Good morning!
Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
Ok.
1. Are you a catholic or a presbyterian?
...oh you don't believe in God anymore. eh,
2. are you a former catholic or a former presbyterian?
3. did you vote in a typically catholic or presbyterian way last time?
4. did your grandparents vote in a typically catholic or presbyterian way?
5. On a scale of 1-5 where 5 is very satisfied and 1 is very unsatisfied, how satisifed would you say you are with contemporary levels of mistrust, prejudice and gnarly old hatred in our community?
6. If you had the option of swearing eternal allegiance and fealty to a crown of Europe tomorrow, would you chose House of Stuart or House of Orange?
7. Now I'm going to show you some "flashcards", Now I don't want you to think about these too much, just giveme the first reaction that comes- (show questionaire recipient various flags note reaction on a scale of 1-5 where 1 is rabid, and 5 is perfect coexistance of cultural tradition).
8 Thank you very much for you time, now this last question is for classification purposes only- would you consider yourself to be living or working in an "interface" zone?

author by Nigel Doddspublication date Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Maybe they could add to their list of activities that it was the IRA who saved corned British soldiers last week from being attacked by youths, and saved the youths from being shot by the British soldiers who would have fired if they were attacked.

Didn't see any DUP tea and crossbun bigots intervening there.

author by nordiepublication date Mon Jul 19, 2004 17:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You're such an hillarious joke Rooster, seeing as you support Loyalist paras. Keep em coming me lad, I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

author by roosterpublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 21:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Would that be paramilitaries or paratroopers?

author by nordiepublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 22:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Paramilitaries ye feckin buffoon.

It makes such a joke of the DUP stanch (excuse) that they won't talk to republicans because of their violence but support the slaughter in Iraq and elsewhere as long as its done by 'legitimate' forces. A true case of not seeing the wood for the trees or just good old fashioned plank in the eye arseholeishness?

author by nordiepublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 22:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This was Roosters take on the Dublin/Monaghan bombings:

'Civilians were not targeted on those operations
by rooster Monday, Apr 12 2004, 2:02am


The operations were targetting areas of economic importance (Dublin) and the IRA safe houses (Monaghan)'



The 'IRA' safe house he's refering to was a Protestant pub!

author by Roosterpublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 22:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

so tell us all nordie, what does your car run on? irelands oil supplies are safeguarded by the troops in the gulf!

A protestant pub? That made it a perfect cover for a safe house then.

author by Nordiepublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 23:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You're just one sick, immoral tedious wee prick.

Why don't you join them ya yella mouthing 'hore?

But, there ya go. Violence is wrong when it's IRA men fighting for their country but right when its multi-national corps fighting for cheap oil.

author by Nordiepublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 23:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I take it, Rooster, that you're a good christian?

author by Roosterpublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 23:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

So Nordie, what does your car run on?
Or are you going to ignore the question? or maybe just change the subject?

Fucking commy soap dodger!

author by Nordiepublication date Tue Jul 20, 2004 23:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Sure they were getting oil anyway, witlord. Now they can just get it for cheaper. But because of their arrogance they'll hopefully not get any from Iraq at all if the people of that country get the run of it again.

Shit, I'd be happy to take the bus or use shanks pony if it meant less children getting their bodies destroyed because of it.

author by bendover basil mcivorpublication date Wed Jul 21, 2004 09:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The DUP are not reknowned for their impartiality, fairness or human kindness.
As for being law abiding,

It wasn't so long ago, Papa doc Paisley was struting about, toting a gun, in his own little terrorist/paramilitary outfit called the Third Force.

Who can forget the DUPs Rev Willie McCrea(Daniel O Donnell wannabe), gospel duet with the lords own christian choir boy/LVF smack loving murderer Billy Wright.

Several members of the DUP are up on indecent assault charges, lets not forget baby batterer Baxter and Roger Hutchinson.

As for defenceless Mr Elder, he reported a similar attack at Forestside, perhaps he is being stalked by his own guilty conscience, which takes the form of an imaginary hammer weilding provi bogeman.

The DUPs dossier on terrorist activity should be an interesting read, revealing the majority of terrorist activity was carried out by the DUPs scumbag LVF chums.

author by roosterpublication date Tue Jul 27, 2004 15:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Unlike sin feinn the DUP condemn ALL TERRORIST organisations

author by nedpublication date Mon Sep 13, 2004 01:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

the ira have only ever fought for themselves

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