Court information

by T Thu May 06, 2004 12:46

How was the High Court organised so quickly. I presume someone made an appeal to the Hight Court. And is this something that you can do yourself or was there a solictor/lawyer required.

I'm just wondering about the legal costs of this and then whether because Bail was granted in the High Court, does this then mean costs would be made against the State.

I find it troubling that people would have to appeal to the High Court to have their bail overturned, considering on the same weekend that none of the 30 arrested in Killarney at the Motor Rally were remanded in custody, yet, 20+ people sitting on the road at a political demonstration are, and the judge tries to keep them in for over a week.

It just shows where the priorities lie. Speak about real political issues and the full force of the state comes down on you.

by 87killarney Thu May 06, 2004 12:49

georgian village, castleknock ??


you crazy revolutionaries!

you takin the piss or what??

by Joe Thu May 06, 2004 13:07

From scouting for the Farmliegh march I know the Georgian village was well inside the Farmleigh exclusion zone. It does look like a pricy bit of real estate but I for one would congratulate Killien on realising what was going on around him and coming down to join the protests. And we in turn should be in solidarity with him.

The left has always included people with origins in the middle class (Lenin, Trotsky, Marx) or even ruling class (Engels, Bakunin) amongst its ranks. Why expect any different today?

Solidarity with all the defendants.

by Me Thu May 06, 2004 13:17

If there is any serious journalists who come and peek here, how about a look at what is going on in the judicial system.

Who judges the judges? There are some real lose cannons. Here's just a flavour.
Judge 'Ah sure no bother kiddy porn user Tim Allen, off you go' Patwell, Judge 'I'm banning yis all from Clare' Mangan, Judge 'PDophile' Curtin and not forgetting the two who fell on their swords Kelly and O'Flaherty.
Now add to the list Judge 'I'll bail druggies, those involved in domestic violence and gardai assaulters' Coughlan but not those who Bertie calls hooligans

There is no doubting that some are better but when they are still appointed politically albeit with the cover of having to apply there is a real need to judge the judges.

by cortier Thu May 06, 2004 14:08

Solidarity with the defendents!

They should be defended against the capitalist state regardless of their political or class background, they are being victimised and their arrests are an attack on all. All charges must be dropped NOW!

However I would raise questions about the politics of these poeple. What records do these people actually have, were they involved in the bin tax campaign for instance?

by Joe Thu May 06, 2004 14:16

Given the ages of most I'd guess the answer is no in most if not all cases. But if the only people you want involved today are those who were involved yesterday then the SP is going to look like the CPI before too long.

by cortier Thu May 06, 2004 14:18

Why the fuck do you think I'm SP?

by Joe Thu May 06, 2004 14:26

But for the curious here is why I thought you might

1. Your tag is typical of ones used by SP members on indymedia (voter, trade unionist, activist etc)

2. Your political vocabulary and methods of expression are that of the SP (this is more shaky, some of the other othodox trots also can sound like this.)

3. Who else would see the bin tax as being some sort of lithmus test for a load of 20 year olds in court?

Anyway it doesn't really matter one way or the other.

by Cortier Thu May 06, 2004 14:29

I dont see how 'cortier' sounds like 'trade unionist', or 'bin tax protester'. Cortier isn't even a real word!

As for the bin tax, I could have easily have said any other protest such as the anti war movement last year or the strikes in Dublin Bus... I just said bin ta because it came into my head.

by Joe Thu May 06, 2004 14:48

And I thought you'd spelt it courtier which I presumed meant somebody who has something to do with the courts. Hence the presumed connection with other tags.

I'm happy to withdraw my slur that you might be a member of the SP and apologise from the bottom of my heart for the deep offence I have obviously caused. And now to resume normal transmissions ...

by i live in house, a very big house in the country. Thu May 06, 2004 17:44

some lovely estates their, bet they cost a few bob. would they not convince their parents to sell the money and give it to the oul workers?

by angry Thu May 06, 2004 17:51

The above named should be targeted and their houses cars smashed to bits. Their details should be noted and any handouts they ever look for (social welfare, student grants, etc etc) should be refused.

People like these are good for nothing

by hydra Thu May 06, 2004 18:13

.... and in bad taste, publishing people's names and addresses. Leave that to the likes of "The Scum".

Where they're from or what they do has no influence for my support for them. Enough that they were there and are now in the criminal injustice apparatus. They are receiving this vindictive performance for having had the cheek to be on the street and refuse being pushed around and shunted about. Its aim is obviously to intimidate and its effect is to continue to drown out discussion of substance with noisy fantasizing about the bloodthirsty and lunatic mob.

by lina Thu May 06, 2004 18:39

nice to see that the working classes are revolting against the facist capitalist EU .

by Calendar Fri May 07, 2004 16:21

Can anyone confirm that the arrested and accused people named above are required to sign on everyday at their local cop-shop?

Is it also true that most of those released on bail will be back in Court on June 16th?

Hmmm... lemme picture the scene.

the defendant or their solicitor asks the judge to relax the ridiculous restrictions on them.

the state objects stating that they "have 'intelligence' /reason to believe that the accused intend to travel to Clare to commit similar acts at the Bush visit next week, yur onner"

The Judge, shocked at the thought of releasing these troublemakers to harrass a fine upstanding mass murderer like Dubya, refuses to amend the bail.

by Aran Sat May 08, 2004 13:32

ye seem to have forgotten one guy-David Irwin (21) Killeagh Co Cork Remanded on Bail

by Belle Mon May 16, 2005 16:22

What the hell? since when do you require to be poor to protest?!? They stood up for what they believe in which is commendable, no matter your background.

Can you say you've done the same?