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Race to Re....zone
 dublin |
environment |
news report
 Thursday March 25, 2004 12:33 by pc
st annes is next
the dublin county manager wants to build an industrial recycling facility in st annes park
it was just on pat kenny but id sorta been follwoing the story already mostly thanks to the good old northside people... (the likely-hood this will go ahead is slim but even to suggest is idiocy, so ill tell the story)
The dublin county manager wants to put a significant waste recycling facility in st annes park.One which will deal with white goods and hazardous waste among all the other things, sounds good but it just not the right place
You will have to go st annes park to remind your how impressive an area it is...
a large factory set-up will have to be built in st annes, with all the associated heavy traffic and noise etc and simpler that its an conservation area, and suddenly they want to change it to industrial...
they need to put it somewhere else, but what was pointed out was that they didn't _own_ somewhere else, so this was the motivation to use st annes
you may heard that theres already been problems with the recylcing facility there, originalyl planned as a small scale bring centre, it began to get very busy and be used as a commericial compost recycling centre
again sounds good at first, but there are spores of fungus which develop from composting that seriously affect people's health, the residents had to battle to highlight that no such facility should be in 250 metres of houses or amenity areas... it was about 60 metres, it went on operating without an appropriate licence but is now been scale back...
so if you problems with that one, why build a bigger one,
there seems to be number of similar issues coming up like airflied etc, is any there national group connect up these issues,( hows that anti-bin tax/ environmentalist co-operation going ??) i heard there was some interest talks with the anti-incinerator people at the cork gg anyone want to fill us in a bit more on that
again this is not a case of nimby... it just makes no sense to put it there,
i remember before there was talk of rezoning st annes for housing as it was an under used amentiy.... now theres some sorta truth to that, but a chunk of woods that ain't really visited by people ain't really under used space in my book... course that didn't save santry woods though...
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12Where is it? How big is the park and how long is it there. Any other info, pics anybody?
It's on the northside running down near the coast at Fairview. It's pretty big but I don't know the acerage and is famous for its rose garden.
is opposite the main entrance to Bull Island (ie not the bridge) as you go along the Clontarf Rd. The other side of it is in Raheny. It's about 250-300 acres and is IIRC the largest park in Dublin. Lovely place.
gifted to the people of dublin.
along with the records and the stout and the iveagh houses and jobs and lots of other stuff, how many holes does it take to fill the albert hall? being an oblique reference to one of the Beatles songs the "all you need is love bunch", reflecting on the tragic death of one of that family, many of whom but _not all_ have been victims, like any family really.
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id like to hear your opinions on this please?
This proposed rezoning of St Anne's Park is a massive threat to all green and open spaces.
Basically the City Manager is saying that there are absolutely no industrial sites anywhere in Dublin that could accomodate their planned waste facility.
About 2-3 miles away from the present unlicensed waste facility, is Clonshaugh Industrial estate. There are at least 10 vacant factories there, one of which is the massive Gateway building which has been idle for 3 years.
Why not buy or rent one of those and put the waste facility in a properly zoned industrial area right off the M50/M1. You have the added benefit of having a traffic infastructure in place, rather than bring massive waste traffic volumes into a residential neighbourhood. Renting or buying an already build factory could well be cheaper than building two very substantial waste "factories" in St Anne's Park.
Has the City Manager looked at these options?
If he did the logical thing and went with this option, you wouldn't have to materially contravene the Development Plan, nor then go to An Bord Pleanala to try to get planning permission to industrialise a park that is a designated Conservation Area.
If it goes ahead, then any City or County Manager can do what they like with any green space in a park, or housing estate, or anywhere.
The Minister for the Environment can direct the City Manager to withdraw this proposal, and that's where people need to direct their opposition now. The website below has some sample letters that could be sent.
This has to be one of the daftest ideas to coe out of City Hall for years but I don't share the optimism of some that it is too crazy to happen. The risk is real, and major, and as someone said above, if the City's biggest park can be attacked, all green spaces will be under threat. Actually, in a sense this is a second attack, as I understand rezoning of green spaces in Ballymun has already been done.
St. Anne's, with 270 acres of park, is a jewel and in other cities would not just be preserved but grown and invested-in. Rather than worn paths and damaged signage, it would be a feature for visitors. Perched between two settled areas (Raheny and Clontarf) and readily accessible by bus and DART, it, and the nearby Bull Island, shared by the same areas, this is a "lung" essential to a healthy city. Greedy developers have long had their eyes on the greenery but they must be kept at bay for all our sakes.
The argument of "no alternative space" is daft too. There are empty plots in Bayside/ Kilbarrack, Coolock and Santry, at least. In fact, as the commentator above said, the Coolock area, with M1/ M50 links, would be much better. Clontarf and Raheny are off the beaten track.
Time is tight, so get your objections in (see the link in the comment by Mr. Cummins) and if you're in Dublin, put some pressure on those all-too-presistent election candidates.
The website above and the one at (http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/safaripark/eagles/16/stannes/stan001.htm) are good, the one below gives some information too.
after saying it was probably not going to happen i rememberedthey aleady had palns for it on display in raheny libarary....
that first link don't work
how did your protest go, saw pic in the times
all councillors voted against the proposal on 5th april
a rare event im told....
county manger continues to ignore commensense
To get information on the park, look at the Dublin Corporation website.
http://www.dublincity.ie/parks/details.asp?id=101
some one has to
from the site
"It appears that City Manager John Fitzgerald has already begun building work in Saint Anne's Park on the proposed site for the new waste facility. He claims that it is unrelated and for a different purpose, but he's not fooling anybody."
An Bord Pleanala has given an oral hearing on the rezoning of St Anne's Park. It takes place from Tuesday 26th October at 11 a.m. in the O'Connell Suite of the Royal Dublin Hotel.
Anyone who is concerned about the future preservation of parks and green spaces should try to attend and make their views known.
If you don't, and you suddenly find plans for a sewage treatement works on YOUR football pitch, don't say that you haven't been warned.