journalist assaulted on Dame St

by Phuq Hedd Thu Jan 22, 2004 18:29

have videographers quietly filming other reporters so that people can see the assaults happening.

by We outnumber them Thu Jan 22, 2004 18:31

... I was gonna give this a miss but if the Branch slime are trying it on - I'm in.

by Pax Thu Jan 22, 2004 19:16

Set up a sting like what phuq hedd sedd.

Maybe if you wore a suit you wouldn't be as identifiable as not being of the "mainstream" media. I don't epect this type of thing to happen to the likes of Charlie Bird, well not in a Hotel anyway, ahem.

Then send the tape into RTE, maybe they'll do a follow up on that Prime Time of a few weeks ago on how the Guards still haven't changed tut tut.

by kokomero Thu Jan 22, 2004 19:23

try filming from Thomas Reids or Pinos etc. across the road as I can't see the cops going into a pub/restaurant to seize equipment.

by orla Thu Jan 22, 2004 19:54

RTE did a piece on the road and street closures and they also showed a clip if someone with a video camera being moved/pushed off. It was obvious from the way that it was reported that it was a journalist trying to get footage that was moved. This was probably a piece from the incident mentioned above.

by lina Thu Jan 22, 2004 20:16

if the RTE footage was the same incident , it could hardly be classified as an assault . it was a push , and it did not look like the camera was damaged at all .

by Indigo Thu Jan 22, 2004 20:41

What happened was that the Gardai had closed Dame Street to traffic. An aggresive individual set himself up in front of the entrance to Dublin Castle. A Guard pushed him out of the way and appeared to turn the camera off. the only aggression was shown from the 'reporter' who started roaring and shouting.No assualt was perpertrated and the idiot is lucky he was not charged with deliberately ignoring the instructions of a Guard

A segment of this was shown on the Six One news. I hope its repeated on the Nine O' Clock news on RTE, then everyone can see it and Indymedia can apologise to the Gardai

by Old Mr.Gory Thu Jan 22, 2004 20:53

So, if I go and tell a Garda to get out of my way and he doesn't then I can push him and that doesn't count as an assault?

Seems to me like some people commenting on this don't know what the legal definition of an assault is: they must be Gardai!

by Acid Thu Jan 22, 2004 20:58

it was a good night. The theatre act was better then I expected, and the atmosphere was mostly very positive. The usual minor scuffles, but nothing serious. Thought their 'inteligence gathering' was pretty funny.
Can you say -inexperienced-? :)

by Lumpen Thu Jan 22, 2004 21:02

Shops in Temple Bar losing business because of "shecyourity".

by indigo is a cop Thu Jan 22, 2004 21:20

and then indygo can suck his own batton

by . Thu Jan 22, 2004 23:41

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by bunch of IMCers on Dame st - Indymedia Ireland Fri Jan 23, 2004 00:00

Video crew get in touch if you exist ec

by peepingtom Fri Jan 23, 2004 01:01

in my life.

Must have been eight on foot with the crowd.

Crowd 60 Gardai 100

Some small flashing red lights in the windows of DC as well.

I wonder what these kids parents would make of them being openly brazenly filmed by Gardai

Do thy know?

They don't even seem to treat it as a special job

Just standard uniformed gardai at it with small 20 JPB size cameras with nightvision I'm sure

It's a standard thing on new cameras

It's sleazy and intimidating

just like you know who

by realist Fri Jan 23, 2004 01:19

it's "sleazy and intimidating" that the police are now using video cameras?

Can you please get off the stage? If indymedia people are able to film the police why can't the police film them back? Admittedly, I would have a problem if police footage was only selectively available - i.e. if an incident happens all police video cameras should be seized to ensure nothing is erased. Similarly, I'd have problems if the police were filming people covertly, which was clearly not the case in this instance.

I personally witnessed the incident where the indymedia journalist was "assaulted". Admittedly I was inside Thomas Reid's so I couldn't hear what happened but I must say the degree of anger and physical aggression being displayed by the individual in question far outweighed the Garda response. The person in question had a camera on a tripod extremely close to the point where the Gardai open the barriers. The rest of the media had chosen to position themselves across the road at the top of Parliament Street.

While I do feel that the Garda presence on Dame Street yesterday was a bit heavy-handed (there seemed to be as many Gardai
as protestors at the protest/play which was performed in the small park beside City Hall) this was a meeting of EU Justice ministers taking place at a sensitive time and if anything had gone wrong Ireland would have been a laughing stock across Europe.

As this is Indymedia, can I get a pre-emptive strike in? I want to point out that I am not somone who's been standing on the street all day wearing a flourescent yellow jacket. In fact, I'm a resident of the area who has been incovenienced all day by the heavy-handed (and in my opinion, ineffectual) security measures which were deployed by the Gardai.

by FREE SPEECH Fri Jan 23, 2004 02:55

Freedom Of Speech, Just watch what you say
4pm Dame St. Outside Dublin Castle. Pre EU justice ministers meeting.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2004/01/284279.wmv

Freedom Of Speech Attacked on Dame St.
4pm Dame St. Outside Dublin Castle. Pre EU justice ministers meeting.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2004/01/284279.wmv

While filming on the footpath 1 of 3 Garda inspectors approached the journalist put his hand over the lens turned off his camera and manhandled him down Dame St. He joined an RTE crew, where he was approached by another Garda who informed me he was "not allowed to film here."
The Inspector then pushed him off the street (that’s the bit on RTE), there another garda, pushed and manhandled him the remaining way down dame St.
At no time did he resist or Ignore the requests of the Garda.
If he was breaking the law they would have arrested him, his equipment was damaged deliberately
On The corner of Georges St. the Garda attacked the journalist again, causing only surface damage to his camera in an attempt to destroy evidence of the attack.

The purpose of the incident is unclear, the GARDA only created a story for the journalist where was none. If they were trying to make a point, they did. But not the one they thought.

The journalist was told he was being removed under SECTION 8

There was no blood and no batons drawn but important questions have to be asked, why were 3 senior GARDA behaving in this fashion toward a peaceful journalist who has never broken the law. If the Journalist did that to the Garda he would have been charged with Assault no question.

This is no the first time journalist have been prevented from filming demonstrations :-
Car Free Day 2001 2 journalists arrested
Burlington Hotel 1 journalist arrested
May 6th journalists arrested and hospitalized you get the picture

Freedom of the press is essential to democracy
Freedom of speech, just watch what you say!


As a result the journalist missed the play L, please post pictures etc..

The gaps in the footage are from it being turned off and tampered with.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2004/01/284279.wmv

by soundmigration Fri Jan 23, 2004 02:57

Who's mockin who
Perhaps the gods where with them or maybe it was a cohesive co-ordinated covert conversation that brought ,to dame st dublin , a seldom but necessary form of social commentary/protest/infotainment to the arena of the street....Every step in this journey of the application of the realisable is signicant but perhaps we could be forgiven for thinking that a silent seal has been broken tonite...gushing indeed but i was fucking impressed with the eloquence and dignity with which the 'no peace no justice' gig presented the arguments {hypocrisy} and anger that i{we} fuckin feel without giving the cops/press/state the opportunity to paint the message/messinger as the liar....we need more!!!!!!

by Helel ben Shahar Fri Jan 23, 2004 02:59

I think that wascloser to the truth than anything else written here except one other message above. Your message (and this one) will probably be deleted by the Party apparatchiks who use this site as a front for Marxist propaganda. never mind, the truth is out and marxism is dead (along with about 100,000,000 innocent victims of it).

by soundmigration Fri Jan 23, 2004 03:27

it is obvious to all that the gardia, through the requirements of the state, have no hesitation in filming and recording of information about the participants/spectators of protests, actions, meetings and other tea parties that threaten thier terms of reference, or god knows even their existence, but lately the blatent, if somewhat desperate,attempts to silence the reportage of what the fuck is going on. Conspiricies {sp?} rely on mystery where here there is none. Indymedia is a platform for indivduals to report/post what they see and feel. A biased opinion may be argued only to the point consideratuion of where ALL media reoprtage comes from. Having an agenda is not a fault. being subservant tto that agenda is a different matter at all...

The state is increasingly turning its attention away from the skirmages its has frequently with its own population, both by attacking, and using,te phenomonon{something like a....} of the media...

but we know they know we know they know we are watching them watching us watching me watching you. AHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

by hal Fri Jan 23, 2004 03:29

Some people don't seem to like IMC !

This story is complete bullshit to me, unless properly confirmed.
interesting little web being woven though,
some strange posts on this thread!


I did enjoy 'the battle of the cameras' this evening, it was all very farcical, cop camera overload with complete intimidation on top, funny thing is all they managed to capture this evening was a shabby, albeit funny enough live panto on themselves.

by Me from germany Fri Jan 23, 2004 03:40

Hi from Berlin, Germany

@ germany.Indymedia.org there is a big report about the EU-meeting an the repression against the free press.
http:/de.indymedia.org/2004/01/72659.shtml


We know whats happen!

by R Isible - 1 of IMC Editorial - Indymedia Ireland Fri Jan 23, 2004 04:14

Any chance of gettting the sound uploaded with it?

by Me from german Fri Jan 23, 2004 04:33

I have sound. I use xine-mediaplayer (www.xinehq.de).

by redjade Fri Jan 23, 2004 07:50

So many Gards for such a silly little play :-)

by Jean Monet Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:32

I think that banner above encapsulates the infantile nature of the "movement" that laughably beleives itself to be the object of state oppression. You are not a threat to the state, just a nusiance and if there were a crowd of winos or flower sellers or crown green bowlers gathered outside Dublin Castle there would be a similar police presence. It is a sad commentary on the "left" in Ireland and Europe that this sort of anarchist shite should have such prominence.

by shopkeeper Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:55

your hypocrisy is breathtaking giving out about the garda filming youse !!!

by the way lost over 2000 in takings yesterday thanks to prodi and co, no comeback either

all over till the next one, please god.

by conor (wsm personal capacity) Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:00

I've find the comments from the shop keepers completely bizare. Obviously they WERE massively inconvinced by the cops and security and lost a lot of money. Instead of doing something about it ,or reaching out to obvious allies who were also at the brunt of the opperation, they come on here and snipe at them. Surely you should be looking for common cause with natural allies ! By the way it ain't over yet as the shop keeper seems to believe, the whole of dame street will be closed off again today and numerous more time over the next while. So cease whining get active get involved !

Conor

by woosam Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:03

Sure anarchists are nearly exclusivly made up of shop keepers and middle class types. It is no surprise that WSM are the first ones to come on appealing for their support.

by NO JUSTICE NO PEACE Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:17

Meanwhile Inside….
An EU Justice and Home Affairs ministers meeting plan there fortress Europe.
The Irish government once again shows contempt for our constitution and acts above the law, (1999 Immigration Act)
Ireland presides over a fortress Europe
US and THEM – Irish history has taught us nothing, how easily the oppressed become the oppressors.
As EU president we have a real opportunity to influence policy in this area. A European Berlin wall or Iron curtain is not the answer.
Only by tackling the root causes of immigration, Poverty, Hunger and Oppressive regimes can we hope to create a fairer and more natural balance. Spending billions of Euro keeping them out is not the answer.

Garda rip new Air Hole in Camera … nice

by IMC Roving Reporter Fri Jan 23, 2004 13:54

Was spotted at 5pm done up to the nines in a suit at the top of parliament street. RR got a photo (which we'll bring y'all in due course) with an as yet unprocessed disposable camera.

IMC RR had also just previous to this heard on Newstalk 106 News that a Globalise Resistance Spokesperson had confirmed to them that GR were to take part in a protest at 5pm at the Justice Ministerial at Dublin Castle.

Garda C. was none to impressed with IMC RR and was restrained by a uniformed friend from approaching IMC RR. Anyway Today's Irish Indo fills in the rest of the story:

Rally row garda starts court action


ONE of the gardai against whom complaints were made in connection with an anti-globalisation rally in May 2002 began High Court proceedings yesterday aimed at stopping the Garda Complaints Board (GCB) from taking any further steps against him.

The garda claims the process was compromised by the chairman of the GCB at a press conference in which he criticised gardai who were under suspicion, and the veracity of the involvement of potential witnesses.

Garda Donal Corcoran, in an affidavit, said a complaint had been made about him concerning an alleged breach of discipline relating to the performance of his duty on May 6, 2002 at the 'Reclaim the Streets' protest in Dublin.

He said there had been very considerable media interest and a public debate concerning the policing of the demonstration by gardai.

With little exception, most of the television, radio and printed media coverage of the event had been highly critical of gardai who were present.

In response to Garda Corcoran's complaints, the board - after "careful consideration" and having regard to the public interest - requested its chief executive to investigate.

Former Assistant Commissioner James McHugh carried out a thorough probe, with the assistance of a team of former gardai who had extensive investigative experience.

The board claimed that identification of certain gardai on video was made difficult by the fact that some of them were not wearing their official identification. Assistance in identifying gardai concerned was provided by senior garda personnel.

Mr McHugh established that Garda Corcoran was the subject of five complaints. Four of these alleged assault, while the fifth alleged assault and the non-wearing of identification. Garda Corcoran was asked to provide a written statement or report, but he did not.

In total, Mr McHugh investigated 37 complaints arising from the protest.

Following receipt of his report, the board decided on October 10, 2002 that a number of complaints might constitute criminal offences and referred the matter to the DPP.

The DPP informed the board in November 2002 that he proposed to institute criminal proceedings against Garda Corcoran.

Garda Corcoran, who is attached to Mountjoy garda station, said in his affidavit that Gordon Holmes, chairman of the GCB, took the "unprecedented step" on November 18, 2002 of calling a press conference during which he spoke about the state of the evidence compiled by the investigator and "in particular, difficulties which were being experienced".

During the conference, Mr Holmes had "complained bitterly" about the lack of co-operation in respect of the circular.

Garda Corcoran said that a clear and unambiguous finding had now been arrived at so far as certain evidence of the case was concerned.

He believed that Mr Holmes had compromised the process by speaking publicly and criticising gardai who were under suspicion and by also criticising the veracity of the involvement of potential witnesses.

The hearing, before Mr Justice Roderick Murphy, continues today.

John Maddock

by Lildazziekool Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:00 Lildazziekool at yahoo dot co dot uk

Where did you get the idea that anarchists are almost exclusively shop keepers and middle class people. That makes absolutely no sense.
Anarchists, just like followers of any political ideology, come from various different occupations.

by David Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:08

Kinda annoying seeing as they were all tied up selling papers outside liberty hall before the "Another front is probable" Meeting

by Jane Monet Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:10

Hey Jean Monet (aka Seainin), the slogan on the banner "No Borders, No Nations" refers to an open/no borders policy that anarchists favour over current EU laws.

Moron.

by Jean Monnet Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:45

I think you will find that European borders are a lot more open now than at any time in modern history. Certainly a big improvement since beleivers in the socialist myth, shared by anarchists to an even absurder degree, were in power.

by % - secularise resistance! Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:46

there are more Muslim converts than gay Garda.
or is it the other way round?

by David Fri Jan 23, 2004 14:57

Anarchists were in power?
that doesn't sound right

by Jean MOnnet Fri Jan 23, 2004 15:33

that Anarchists were in power. I said that those who share a different version of the socialist myth were in power. Anarchists to their possible credit have at least never been in the position where they have had to drown the illogicalities of socialsim in the blood of their fellows whose human nature is not amenable to their ridiculous theories. Having said that, they were well on the way to it in Spain.

by nice d Fri Jan 23, 2004 15:57

I dont think it's fair to say they were intimidating with their cameras. They had little home cam corders. Still nothing to their european counterparts. And in all fairness, how many people had their own cameras and took footage and shots of them?! Ratio must of been at least 5:1!!

by micky Fri Jan 23, 2004 16:17

interesting video footage. No reason for them to remove the person with the camera. Nothing but their best try at intimidation. (which at some points of the clip, seemed to fail)

by thoughts Fri Jan 23, 2004 17:31

It is not the taking of photos that matters really, it is the use to which those photos are put. Most photos of the gardai end up in someone's photo collection to be forgotten, a few end up here where people try to make sense of the situation and if they misbehave badly they might end up in the national press. There is no left wing library of photos of those to be put against the wall when Che raises his zombie army to retake the world. On the other hand where do the gardai's photos go, how do they rank people in the photos in terms of threat, could you end up on some photosheet of troblesome trots who deserve a few kicks just because you turned up to show support in a peaceful manner. The gardai are not just individuals taking photos but and instution gathering intelligience, how this information is used and the lack of transperancy on that issue is what the problem is and why it can be perceived by law abiding protestors as intimidation. This can then lead to the counterproductive measure of protestors masking up for fear of recrimination, which is then seen as another excuse for branding them as unsociable.And sure for the sake of arguement here i could try and bring together the hajib thread and scarf wearing by protestors and ask why religious folk can wear headscarves to protect their virtue but protestors are not allowed protect their identity without being branded as extremists.

by David Fri Jan 23, 2004 18:26

was very enthusiastic about his photography, demanding a close up shot of some of the performers and bystanders. maybe he couldn't work the zoom function so instead he engaged his subject at close proximity, when the model proved elusive (turned away and tried to hide his identity) he resorted to some sort of stalking technique(walking right in front of him, following him around), must have learned that in Templemore

by BOB Sat Jan 24, 2004 21:29

http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0122/6news/6news56_5a.smil
RTE VIDEO about 30 seconds to report

http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0122/templebar.html#ram

Is there any point in going to the GCB Garda Complaints Board?

by TROLL SPOTTER Sat Jan 24, 2004 23:33

What happened...
RE Indigos posting
What happened was that the Gardai had closed Dame Street to traffic. An aggressive individual set himself up in front of the entrance to Dublin Castle...
An aggressive individual, please explain?
How come every time there is a report of poor garda behaviour some "unknown local" who just happened to witness the event manages to appear, as the voice of reason and manages to get a posting up on Indymedia within hours. e.g. Black pope arrested in galway
Garda trolls, just ignore them

The link above to RTE VIDEO only shows a segment of the incident but he is clearly singled out for Garda attention. The Indymedia video tells its own story.

Anyone wondering what the Garda do with all the footage they have collected it should put SIS Schengen Information System and Statewatch in to google NOW

Repression only flues the desire for freedom

by jeff Sun Jan 25, 2004 18:02

... the skangers media (sun, star, evening herald) start whinging on about dead cops, don't expect me to join in bleeting like a lamb. There are always one or two decent coppers, but if the Gardai inststution are dumb and retarded enough to have a fecking dribbling oranga tang from Human resources defending their con-duct on Primetime, don't expect respect.

In fact, I have lost respect for the Farce, and I have lost respect for the media. I won't be impressed with any so called journalist I meet. I am a future voter, consumer and ax payer. There are loads of people like me, and the next generation are even angrier. Cop the feck on, cops, or soon you will all end up having to live in seperate barracks with your families, in a type of "cop land".

I just wish some sort of divine justice would be visited on Donal Corcoran. Please Lord, hear our prayers.

by Indigo Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:19

In fact i am a trinity student, amazing that i would ever happen to be walking down Dame Street isn't it???

Firstlly the 'journalist' set himself apart from the other media presence and set himself in the middle of the road. He then got abuse, shouting and roaring at the garda who moved him along. the 'journalist' was in the wrong. It's no wonder that people have a problem accepting most accounts of police brutality here, because words like 'assualt' and 'bneating' and so on are thrown about far too frequnelty.

by video watcher Mon Jan 26, 2004 15:38

the entire episode is on the site in the form of a video - no shouting and roaring at beginning of incident - u are a liar - goodbye

by Stephen - Trinity Old Boy's Defence Association Mon Jan 26, 2004 17:12

You are quite obviously not a Trinity student as you are unable to spell. Please cease and desist from defaming our institution by associating yourself with it falsely.

by Chekov Mon Jan 26, 2004 17:16

indigo - the video rather speaks for itself.

"He then got abuse, shouting and roaring at the garda who moved him along. the 'journalist' was in the wrong."

I suppose it depends on your point of view. If you think that people should bow the head and humbly comply when a garda gives them an instruction, no matter how illegal, then I suppose he was in the wrong. On the other hand if you think that people should stand up for their rights, then he was clearly 'in the right'. The abuse that you refer to seems to consist of asking repeatedly under what law he was being moved on and arguing that the garda's actions were contravening the principles of a free media. How dare he!

You also quibble with his claims of assault. Why don't you try to push a garda 100 yards down a main street and then break his video camera? You'll soon find out that the journalist's definition of assault is shared by a few of the state's finest - gardai, public prosecutors and prison officers for example.

by pragmatic Mon Jan 26, 2004 17:21

It wasnt assault and its a joke to claim it was. It belittles the process of complaint by people who actually are assaulted by guards. He couldnt identify himself as press so they had no choice but to move him on. He then over-reacted and became an irritating nuisance. Im sure if I was the guard I would have lost my patience.

by Andrew Mon Jan 26, 2004 17:25

Assault can mean telling a cop to 'fuck off'.

But if you are so sure of yourself hang out around Pearse st and shove the first cop that comes out down to Westmoreland st. I'll bet you a grand you get done for assault. (Or just get taken to the cell for a good kicking).

by pragmatic Mon Jan 26, 2004 17:25

was the road not blocked off for clear access to delegates cars? If somebody sets up a tripod in the middle of the road is that not a dangerous obstruction? or am I missing something?

by ec Mon Jan 26, 2004 18:31

How's that for 'obstruction'.

by Legal Head Tue Jan 27, 2004 01:32

Garda B22 in the video said the Journalist was being removed under Section 8 of the CRIMINAL JUSTICE (PUBLIC ORDER) ACT, 1994.

Section 8: Failure to comply with direction of member of Garda Síochána.

8.—(1) Where a member of the Garda Síochána finds a person in a public place and suspects, with reasonable cause, that such person—
( a ) is or has been acting in a manner contrary to the provisions of section 4(intoxication in a public place), 5(disorderly conduct) , 6 (threatening, abusive, insulting behaviour) , 7 (distribution or display of offensive material) or 9 (wilful obstruction), or
( b ) without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, is acting in a manner which consists of loitering in a public place in circumstances, which may include the company of other persons, that give rise to a reasonable apprehension for the safety of persons or the safety of property or for the maintenance of the public peace, the member may direct the person so suspected to do either or both of the following, that is to say:
(i) desist from acting in such a manner, and
(ii) leave immediately the vicinity of the place concerned in a peaceable or orderly manner.
(2) It shall be an offence for any person, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, to fail to comply with a direction given by a member of the Garda Síochána under this section.

The Journalist claims he was assaulted.

The definition of ASSAULT in the Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person Act 1997 is the intentional or reckless direct or indirect application of force or impact to the body of
another person, without their consent. It is also a separate offence to 'cause serious harm' to another person, including causing the loss or impairment of function of any bodily organ.

Assualt:

2.—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly—
( a ) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or
( b ) causes another to believe on reasonable grounds that he or she is likely immediately to be subjected to any such force or impact,
without the consent of the other.
(2) In subsection (1)(a), "force" includes—
( a ) application of heat, light, electric current, noise or any other form of energy, and
( b ) application of matter in solid liquid or gaseous form.
(3) No such offence is committed if the force or impact, not being intended or likely to cause injury, is in the circumstances such as is generally acceptable in the ordinary conduct of daily life and the defendant does not know or believe that it is in fact unacceptable to the other person.

by steve Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:11

I dont know what the fuss is about these ministerial summits because all the work and decisions have been made/done prior to them anyway. Nobody in the room would be all that interested in bucking the agenda. If you want the decision makers to hear you follow the COREPER'S.

It seems to be as much a PR stunt and in/formal get-together for the groups protesting as it is for the delegates.

by Damian gordon - drug court paricapant Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:56 51 wolfe tone close wolfetone st Dublin 1 0851455927

I'm from the inner city and i know the tactic's of the police force very well as i'm am a recovering drug addict and i know through first hand their beating's they give out ,their disregard for the law. To me not many of these so called (protectors of the law actually know the law). This would be a bit worrying for the minister for so called justice who know's as much about the law than santa,I mean that he is just like all ministers look ata crisis and put under his pillow at night. I dont mean he literally knows nothing.When the march or the cycle for globilization was held the attitude of the police was like they were all on something to me they were on coke because they just charged in with there famous shirts without their numbers on. Of course this was so no one would remember but it's the 21st century surely they must of said to them self's not to do anything physical as there may be some people with video camera's, this really makes me feel that the police force should go under a mental apptitude test, what sickened me was they came like wild animals this you wouldn't even see in a third world country were the police can be dangerous.But one question really haunts me ,what if our police were armed we would be talking not about injuries but(deaths). the pol,ice force that was there on that sunday were asked at an in quest did they know each other and they all said no , i mean the police were from store st and pearse st they had to know each other .This is were perjury comes into the force. But thts another topic.I would like this to be seen by people who use this web site and others.