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Dublin-Monaghan Terrorist Attack
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Thursday December 11, 2003 11:27 by Maubere
Here are the conclusions of the Barron Inquiry into the biggest crime in Ireland this century Tithe an Oireachtais |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16My own conclusions on the bombings are:
1: The British Govt committed an act of war aginst Ireland on 17 May 1974
2:The "Irish" Govt/establishment concluded that keeping normal economic realations with Britain was more important than trivial matters such as the murder of 33 people
3: The Irish govt collaberated like good quislings in the cover up of this terrorist attack
4: The impicaions of the truth are too big for the ruling clases in Britain and Ireland,
they are
*The rulers of the UK are murdering terrorists, the same as Osama Bin Laden,
*The rulers of Ireland are cowards who betrayed everything they are supposed to represent,
* The War on Terror is a sham because the British Govt are terrorists themselves
*Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Labour, the PDs and the wider Irish establishment have all colluded in the cover up, that includes Garret Fitzgerald, Dick Spring, Charlie Haughey, John Bruton, Mary Harney, amoung others
*The next time you hear them bleating on about terrorism, murder, crime, democracy, human rights, law and order etc just remember what they did
*The quisling press, eg Tony O'Reilly, Kevin Myers, Eoghan Harris, Eilis O'Hanlon etc have played a loyal (pardon the pun) part in protecting the terrorists
*The Irish people have to lose their shoneen, inferiority complex and stand up for their rights, not bow down meekly before our former(or maybe not so former) imperial masters
Our "leader" refused to answer questions on Dublin-Monaghan according to ITV-What has he to hide and why didn't RTE do a proper investigation into the terrorist attacks??
This is a transcript from ITVs First Tuesday program about the Dublin-Monaghan bombing, taken from ther Barron Report,
"We asked former Irish Prime Minister Cosgrave what pressure he’d put on the British authorities to trace the bombers and if HE knew his police force had a list of
suspects.
He declined to answer any questions about the bombings.
Liam Cosgraves address to the nation on 17 May 1974
"To the evil men who have perpetrated these deeds we express the revulsion and condemnation which every decent person in this island feels at their unforgivable acts. The Government are as yet unaware of the
identity of those responsible for these crimes… While our society is menaced by men who perpetate cowardly acts of violence the gardai and the army will give the citizens all the protection they can"
Some backround info on bombings, given the shameful response to the bombings I think we should all learn more about it
Dublin-Monaghan Links
Justice for the Forgotten
http://www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org
Photos from 17 May 1974,
Parnell Street
http://www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org/photo.php?catid=1
Talbot Street
http://www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org/photo.php?catid=3
Monaghan
http://www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org/photo.php?catid=9
Pat Finucane Centre
http://www.serve.com/pfc/dubmon/intro.html
Don Mullen investigation
http://www.serve.com/pfc/dubmon/mullan.html
The Guardian (UK)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/Story/0,2763,1104399,00.html
Justice Barron Report
http://www.gov.ie/oireachtas/frame.htm - Committees-Joint and Select Committees-Committee on Justice, Equality, Defence and Women's Rights-Joint
The extremely serious implications of the Dublin/Monaghan bombings
33 people murdered, several injured and maimed for life, the bombing carried out by a loyalist organisation, probably aided by British State Intelligence.
What did the Irish State do? A few speeches from Cosgrave FitzGerald and Cruise O'Brien and then....the police files are lost in the Department of Justice.
Bear in mind this atrocity was preceded by bombings in late 1972 - providing Fine Gael with an excuse to abstain in a Dáil vote on a repressive amendment ot the Offences Against the State Act brought in by the Jack Lynch Fianna Fáil government. Had FG stuck to its original position of opposing this measure - it would have been DEFEATED.
The 1972 bombing, and a subsequent one outside a CIÉ premises, was also done by loyalists/British Security. The police again failed lamentably to investigate.
The Irish state bears a huge responsibility for "The Troubles". Allow yourself make the following analysis of the 1970 Arms Trial : a jury found that the defendants Haughey, Luykx, and the two Kellys were innocent. This implied that any arms importation was done with government approval.
Yet Lynch O'Malley and Cosgrave (the man who as FG leader triggered the sacking of Blaney and Haughey, and the resignation of Kevin Boland, following a tip-off from British government sources) were prepared to see their political opponents go down for several years - on trumped up charges.
Think about this next time you read or hear former Ministers from that era - Dessie O'Malley, Garret Fitzgerald, Conor Cruise O'Brien rage about their "opposition" to "violence" and their love of "peace" and "democracy".
Think about the documented activities of the police "Heavy Gang" in the 1970's - once this was exposed to the light of day 1976 a split was triggered in the Labour Party - the departure of Matt Merrigan Noel Browne and others - and Fianna Fáil trounced the FG/Labour coalition.
Well done the campaigners in Justice for the Forgotten and the author Don Mullan.
I have a feeling you may come from the generation born before 1969. I come from the 70s, any memory I may have of the bombings in 1974 are very coloured by the Black and White TV pre wanderly wagon era.
Which means I have had to look and learn.
It is not only contemporary Irish society [who we might remember are now _mostly_ "born after '69"] but many other contemporary cultures and nations, states and countries that suffer a yawning gap of discourse, history, understanding, fact for what have appeared to have become "the crucible decade of modern Europe".
It always struck me that the history books ended just before they ought to have, and that when the next generation came along, they had already internalised the notion of "history ending".
I doubt any society may experience reconciliation without truth, which is why I suppose the cliché diplomats have always put the two terms together, but I've not yet seen any state that can bear the pain of being truthful in search of reconciliation.
So, I and others younger than I, may reflect that Sunningdale was seen as the cause for a bomb attack on what I was brought up to believe was my "country" which was different to what was "not my country" because they had bombs and we didn't.
Wanderly wagon years gave way to Bosco gave way to Zig n Zag gave way to GFA.
and the thing is it _is_ exactly the same for a generation of people who never knew and a generation of people who never forgot all over the world.
We have a lot to learn from each other.
Now you're starting to get the big picture ...
I remember the time (not too long ago) when all you could do was squeal "Omagh Omagh" ... and whenever Dublin-Monaghan was mentioned your eyes glazed over .....
Now maybe your eyes are beginning to open ...... and you begin to see Dublin-Monaghan for the open sore that it is .... the single worst atrocity of the "Troubles" with the perpetrators never brought to account ....
Irish civilians murdered on Irish soil by the nefarious working of the British secret services and their tracks covered up by the renegades in the corridors of power down in the Free State ....
And you wonder why some of us get a wee bit cynical when we hear the politically correct Free Stateniks chanting their mantra of "Omagh Omagh" .....
That is not to say that Omagh wasn't a nasty piece of work ..... but there are some kind of strange double standards at work when those who loudly chant "Omagh Omagh" seem to succumb to lung failure as soon as Dublin-Monaghan comes up for discussion ....
"errrrrrr Dublin-Monaghan loike what was that ... ? ehhhh way before moi toime loike man" ........
And then ye wonder why nobody takes ye seriously ......
Boring.
Norn Iron is finally moving towards something like a civilised society. Let's just leave it at that. There was not a great deal the govt in the Republic could have done given that the perps fled over the border into another jurisdiction.
It's 2003 now so who cares??
Yeah boring ... right on Billy Boy .....
I can well believe it - certainly for Dublin 4 members of the MTV generation with their goldfish attention spans for whom anything that happened more than about 5 minutes ago is "History" .....
But maybe if your family had lost someone in this "incident" you might view it differently ......
And yes this is 2003 ... and maybe the Cory Report will be published before the year's end .....
http://www.thepost.ie/web/DocumentView/did-726457033-pageUrl--2FThe-Newspaper-2FSundays-Paper.asp
"Finucane, a prominent Belfast solicitor, was murdered at his home in 1989 by masked men using a weapon "stolen" from the British Army. It came weeks after British minister Douglas Hogg claimed some lawyers in the North were "unduly sympathetic" to the IRA's cause. "
Some people might say there's still a lot of open sores waiting for closure ...
Not that wee Billy Boyd will give a toss either way .... loike I mean that was 1989 .... I mean loike light years ago ....
And anyway we all know that the Brits have cleaned up their act and the Paras are busy bringing freedom and democracy to far-flung places like Iraq and Afghanistan ......
So who in their right mind would worry about a few unsolved murders of innocent civilians way back when ......
ah yes, the old "don't live in the past" argument, I've heard Saddam is planning to use this as his defence when he's put on trial, he'll probably say "most of my major crimes were over 10 years ago, can't we just move on and forget who killed who and who's children were gassed?"
seriously though, it strange there's always a selective approach when it comes to "living in the past", crimes comitted by britain, usa etc are to be forgotten, if someone said the Kurds should forget saddams crimes they would be (rightly) called an apologist, those who say we should forget the dublin-monaghan bombings are apologising for terrorism,
my own opinion is that there should be a truth and reconciliation commision, all (i repeat all, eg IRA. Loyalist, Garda, RUC/british army etc) info about the North needs to come out
Dublin had an illegal claim over the six counties so therefore it was a legitimate target in a time of war.
But Rooster, being a stern supporter of the British and, assumedly, the War on Terror, you surely condemn all illegal acts perpetrated against civillians do you not?
The operations were targetting areas of economic importance (Dublin) and the IRA safe houses (Monaghan)
The bombs were placed where they would kill as many members of the public as possible, and they were set to explode when most people would be leaving their places of work.
None were planted near any economic or strategic targets. They were directed specifically at civilians.
All southern governments then and since failed to mount any worthwhile investigation. Crucial evidence was removed from the Department of Justice and the Garda Headquarters, which is a clear indication of collusion at several levels.
Sooner or later Bliar will withdraw his english troops thatb have protected the dirty rebels for so long. It is then that the orange forces will strike the evil south, Dublin/Monaghan was just a taste of what will come if you continue to interfere with the people of Ulster.
The orange forces will be too busy re-enacting what they did in Kincora.
Imagine you are in the welcome inn and body parts come flying in the windows.