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Anti-war Activists Must Condemn Bombing Atrocities in Turkey

category international | anti-war / imperialism | news report author Thursday November 20, 2003 15:52author by Dominic Carroll - Clonakilty Against the Warauthor email clonakiltyagainstthewar at eircom dot net Report this post to the editors

Atrocities in Turkey demand an honest response from the left and the anti-war movement

There is a word in the lexicon of the left that is virtually taboo: that word is “condemn” (“express utter disapproval of”: Oxford Dictionary). When the bombs were going off in the North (no matter how indiscriminate and devastating), guarded political opposition to the methods of republicanism was deemed the correct stance, but to “condemn” an atrocity was considered such a concession to the forces of reaction (and so confusing for the constituency of the left) that the word could never be uttered. Even to use the word “atrocity” or “terror” would be considered a cardinal error. I and many other anti-war activists reject this.

“We are fully aware of the root causes to ‘terror’”. “We understand the background”. “We know who the real terrorists are” – the stock response of the left when confronted with atrocities such as those perpetuated in Turkey today and on Saturday, or with café bombs in Israel, etc. Though these statements in and of themselves are viable, they seem to leave something unsaid, and are therefore infective. Any anti-war activist is likely to be asked for a reaction to the bombings in Turkey. We might say that bombs went off in Iraq and Afghanistan every day and night for weeks, killing thousands (and never receiving anything like the detailed media coverage devoted to the bombs in Turkey or whenever Western interests are targeted); the US/UK were the culprits and now UK interests have been hit in Turkey as retaliation. We might add that “we are fully aware of the root causes to ‘terror’”, that we “understand the background” and that “we know who the real terrorists are”. But if we leave it at that, we deceive ourselves and those interested in what we have to say. I despair when I see carnage, regardless of the perpetrator. But the corruption and limitations of language (what is “terror”, what does it mean to “condemn”, etc.) cannot become the reason for my refusal to say what I think and feel (and neither will it affect my willingess to actively opppose the US “War on Terror”).

I condemn atrocities – all of them. I would urge other anti-war activists to do likewise.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Super idea     Hear Hear    Thu Nov 20, 2003 16:22 
   utter condemnation of violence     barry    Thu Nov 20, 2003 16:33 
   Condeming the bombing     Terry    Thu Nov 20, 2003 16:36 
   I agree     Fintan Lane    Thu Nov 20, 2003 16:55 
   Terry     pat c    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:07 
   Not really an issue.     Chekov    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:07 
   Mantra     Herdless    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:25 
   What Must We Do?     Yossarian    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:32 
   Agree with Mr. Carroll     Eilish    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:47 
 10   I wonder     Degenerate    Thu Nov 20, 2003 17:52 
 11   WSM to the rescue     Class WARrior    Thu Nov 20, 2003 18:13 
 12   Other possible press releases:     Phuq Hedd    Thu Nov 20, 2003 18:37 
 13   I agree with Chekov     Degenerate    Thu Nov 20, 2003 18:38 
 14   wow!     Chekov    Thu Nov 20, 2003 18:50 
 15   Chekov     The Seagull    Thu Nov 20, 2003 19:34 
 16   Bomb turkey next please     George W dumbwars bush    Thu Nov 20, 2003 19:36 
 17   i condemn it more then you condemn it     paul    Thu Nov 20, 2003 19:49 
 18   Another unclesama bin liner/al-ciaeda atrocity     carpet bombing of Turkey needed    Thu Nov 20, 2003 19:52 
 19   Bomb Belfast and Dublin please     Lone gunman    Thu Nov 20, 2003 19:58 
 20   Fintan Lane has got it wrong     Anthony - Kildare anti-war    Thu Nov 20, 2003 20:08 
 21   Condemnations     Paddy Crerand    Thu Nov 20, 2003 20:44 
 22   What is the disagreement?     Fintan Lane    Thu Nov 20, 2003 21:02 
 23   Bombers     Drbinoche    Thu Nov 20, 2003 22:58 
 24   Anti-Imperialists must support Martyrdom attacks in Turkey!     Turlough    Fri Nov 21, 2003 01:01 
 25   Live by the sword, etc     David C.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 03:29 
 26   Some very half=hearted condemnations here     Fergal    Fri Nov 21, 2003 05:15 
 27   OK "Drbinoche" and "Feargal"     Phuq Hedd    Fri Nov 21, 2003 05:25 
 28   Synagogue Bombings in Turkey     avi H.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 06:38 
 29   ANTI-SEMETIC ATROCITIES LACK OF CONDEMNATION     john    Fri Nov 21, 2003 08:35 
 30   Phuq Hedd makes excuses for Al (Qaeda again)     Fergal    Fri Nov 21, 2003 08:50 
 31   Fergals falacious worldview     JOHN    Fri Nov 21, 2003 09:15 
 32   John, John, John......     Fergal    Fri Nov 21, 2003 09:55 
 33   You Left Wing Terrorist Sympathisers make me sick! SHAME!     Righteous Pragmatist    Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:25 
 34   Synagogue Bombings     avi H.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 13:56 
 35   Agree with Dominic Carroll - & Response to Chekov     Anonymous    Fri Nov 21, 2003 14:02 
 36   Avi is mistaken     Eilish    Fri Nov 21, 2003 14:10 
 37   on the other hand...     an anarchist    Fri Nov 21, 2003 14:25 
 38   to condemn or not to condemn     John    Fri Nov 21, 2003 15:00 
 39   viva las vegas     United Capitalist cunts    Fri Nov 21, 2003 16:15 
 40   unclesama bin liner /al-ciaeda come through for Bush once again     United Capitalist cunts    Fri Nov 21, 2003 16:35 
 41   Further comments on condemnation     Terry    Fri Nov 21, 2003 18:39 
 42   Eilish     avi H.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 19:21 
 43   Question for Avi...     David C.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 19:36 
 44   Another question for Avi ...     mr. fuzzy logic    Fri Nov 21, 2003 21:24 
 45   Well, I'd certainly call you an anti-semite...     David C.    Fri Nov 21, 2003 21:57 
 46   Oh yeah ...     mr. fuzzy logic    Fri Nov 21, 2003 22:43 
 47   Hmmmm..     David C.    Sat Nov 22, 2003 00:56 
 48   The Left Wing so-called Peace Movement adores terrorists     Fergal    Sat Nov 22, 2003 06:55 
 49   talking of anti-Semitism and the left     avi H.    Sun Nov 23, 2003 06:23 
 50   An attempt to answer Avi ....     mr. fuzzy logic    Sun Nov 23, 2003 14:39 
 51   deletion     avi H.    Sun Nov 23, 2003 15:20 
 52   Well now ....     mr. fuzzy logic    Sun Nov 23, 2003 19:28 
 53   Deletion     avi H.    Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:04 
 54   Response     Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group    Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:51 
 55   removal     avi H.    Tue Nov 25, 2003 18:06 
 56   Cop on avi     Joe    Tue Nov 25, 2003 18:14 


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