Upcoming Events

Dublin | Miscellaneous

no events match your query!

New Events

Dublin

no events posted in last week

Blog Feeds

Anti-Empire

Anti-Empire

offsite link North Korea Increases Aid to Russia, Mos... Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link Trump Assembles a War Cabinet Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link Slavgrinder Ramps Up Into Overdrive Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link ?Existential? Culling to Continue on Com... Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:28 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link US to Deploy Military Contractors to Ukr... Sun Nov 10, 2024 02:37 | Field Empty

Anti-Empire >>

The Saker
A bird's eye view of the vineyard

offsite link Alternative Copy of thesaker.is site is available Thu May 25, 2023 14:38 | Ice-Saker-V6bKu3nz
Alternative site: https://thesaker.si/saker-a... Site was created using the downloads provided Regards Herb

offsite link The Saker blog is now frozen Tue Feb 28, 2023 23:55 | The Saker
Dear friends As I have previously announced, we are now “freezing” the blog.? We are also making archives of the blog available for free download in various formats (see below).?

offsite link What do you make of the Russia and China Partnership? Tue Feb 28, 2023 16:26 | The Saker
by Mr. Allen for the Saker blog Over the last few years, we hear leaders from both Russia and China pronouncing that they have formed a relationship where there are

offsite link Moveable Feast Cafe 2023/02/27 ? Open Thread Mon Feb 27, 2023 19:00 | cafe-uploader
2023/02/27 19:00:02Welcome to the ‘Moveable Feast Cafe’. The ‘Moveable Feast’ is an open thread where readers can post wide ranging observations, articles, rants, off topic and have animate discussions of

offsite link The stage is set for Hybrid World War III Mon Feb 27, 2023 15:50 | The Saker
Pepe Escobar for the Saker blog A powerful feeling rhythms your skin and drums up your soul as you?re immersed in a long walk under persistent snow flurries, pinpointed by

The Saker >>

Lockdown Skeptics

The Daily Sceptic

offsite link News Round-Up Sat Jan 25, 2025 01:55 | Toby Young
A summary of the most interesting stories in the past 24 hours that challenge the prevailing orthodoxy about the ?climate emergency?, public health ?crises? and the supposed moral defects of Western civilisation.
The post News Round-Up appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link In Welcoming Trump, Let Us Remember Henry VIII Fri Jan 24, 2025 19:00 | Joanna Gray
We're all feeling a little giddy after the inauguration, but let us remember to put not our trust in princes, says Joanna Gray. After all, Thomas More effused at the coronation of Henry VIII, and look what happened to him.
The post In Welcoming Trump, Let Us Remember Henry VIII appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Have Covid Travel Requirements Gone Away? Fri Jan 24, 2025 17:00 | Dr Roger Watson
Back in 2022 and 2023 when Covid travel restrictions and vaccine passports were all the rage Dr Roger Watson published his country-by-country guide. Now, in 2025, he takes a look to see if any are still at it.
The post Have Covid Travel Requirements Gone Away? appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link A Golden Age for American Meritocracy Fri Jan 24, 2025 14:15 | Darren Gee
The second Trump Presidency has already dissolved hundreds of DEI programmes and looks set to herald a new golden age of American meritocracy. It's a movement America and the world are hungry for, says Darren Gobin.
The post A Golden Age for American Meritocracy appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Think Tank?s Net Zero Survey Concludes the Public is the Problem Fri Jan 24, 2025 13:10 | Ben Pile
The Social Market Foundation has carried out a survey on public attitudes to Net Zero and concluded that the "uninformed" and reluctant public are the problem. Why else would they say no to heat pumps?
The post Think Tank’s Net Zero Survey Concludes the Public is the Problem appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

Lockdown Skeptics >>

Voltaire Network
Voltaire, international edition

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter #117 Fri Jan 24, 2025 19:54 | en

offsite link The United States bets its hegemony on the Fourth Industrial Revolution Fri Jan 24, 2025 19:26 | en

offsite link For Thierry Meyssan, the Sarkozy trial for illegal financing of the 2007 preside... Fri Jan 24, 2025 19:23 | en

offsite link Should we condemn or not the glorification of Nazism?, by Thierry Meyssan Wed Jan 22, 2025 14:05 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?116 Sat Jan 18, 2025 06:46 | en

Voltaire Network >>

Chile 1973: The other 9/11

category dublin | miscellaneous | news report author Thursday September 04, 2003 14:31author by Ballymun Marxist Fourm - Hosted by Ballymun SWP Report this post to the editors

Discussion meeting in Ballymun

Ballymun Marxist Forum
Chile 1973: The other September 11
Speaker Aoife Breslin
Thursday Sept 11
7.30pm Axis Centre Ballymun

Thirty years ago the left wing government of Chile was drowned in blood.
On 11 September we shall be urged to remember the dead of the World Trade Centre in 2001. Many socialists will also remember another massacre, the Chilean coup of 1973. The important thing is not to mourn, but to learn. The best tribute we can pay to those who died is to draw the lessons from the mistakes they paid for so dearly.
In September 1970 The main question was the strategy of the Chilean left. But there were two directly opposed lessons that could be drawn. One was that argued in this article, that the left should have moved more firmly and faster, basing itself on workers' self organisation in the workplaces, and refusing to play by the rules of parliamentary democracy.
But most of the European left drew the opposite message - in Eric Hobsbawm's words, 'Allende failed... because it alienated large sectors of the population which it ought to have carried with it.' Throughout Europe the Chilean defeat led to a swing to the right. Yet the Chilean experience, especially the struggle of workers in the cordones, is an inspiring testimony to the ability of working people to organise themselves. It should never be forgotten.

author by mepublication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 15:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Didn't you mean to say lets forget the rules of parlimentary democracy and start a dictatorsip of Kieran allen and his minions.

author by FdCApublication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 15:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

29 years ago, following the coup in Chile, Italian anarchist
communists wrote the following which we now present in order to
remember the thousands of women and men who over the decades
have fought and tried to resist against the Chilean
dictatorship, paying for it with their lives and their freedom.
"On the 11th September 1973 the Allende government was
overthrown and a fascist dictatorship was installed!!!
The united left in Chile, Unidad Popular, was carrying out a
reformist project, a first experiment on the nation's road to
socialism; the historical importance of this experience is
immense as it allows us to make an analysis from which valuable
lessons can be learnt regarding revolutionary strategy.

For some time now, Chile has become an epicentre of imperialist
contradictions in Latin America, and over recent years the clash
between the two basic classes, the bourgoisie and the
proletariat, has become more and more radical.

Unidad Popular's project foresaw a change in the living
conditions of the workers through reformist, civilizing,
democratic action from within the framework of the bourgeois
institutions. To help them in this work they sought and obtained
an alliance with progressive bourgeois elements and with the
national bourgeoisie who approved of a process of economic and
political independence for Chile. It was with the support of
these elements that Unidad Popular were able to take power in
government. The electoral victory and the first nationalizations
set in motion a movement which was to depart from the path of
reformism - land and factory occupations created new power
relations in the class struggle which was to become more and
more marked.

The process could no longer restrain itself within the bounds of
reformism and would have had to continue until such times as the
bourgeois State would be destroyed and the proletariat would
take over all the vital points of the country's economy.

The inability of reformism to manage and push forward such a
process to the final clash marked the defeat of the Chilean
proletariat.

The progressive bourgeoisie, having understood that the workers
were a threat to their class interests, soon returned to that
instrument which they have always used to defend themselves from
the proletariat's attacks - a coup d'etat on the part of the
fascists or the military. This same bourgeoisie which had at
first supported Allende, was now siding with the other half of
its own class and, united with them, would prepare the bloody
defeat of the proletariat. While the workers went on pushing
forward their interests, occupying factories and creating organs
of direct democracy, the bourgeoisie was working towards
stopping this whole process. Unidad Popular was unable to do
anything - intent as they were on trying to conquer the
progressive bourgeoisie and on observing the boundaries of
constitutionality, restricted by their theoretical and strategic
limitations, they could not understand the clash that was taking
place by reasons of its very nature. The interests of the
classes had emerged clearly with no mystification, so any
indecision would mean sending the exploited classes to certain
defeat, which then of course happened. The attempt to reconcile
with the bourgeoisie instead of attacking it and engaging in an
armed battle leading to the proletariat's victory was a grave
error which will weigh hard on the entire South American
continent for a long time to come.

The coup d'etat on the part of the national bourgeoisie with the
support of American imperialism took the defenceless movement of
the exploited by surprise. The heoic resistance of the Chilean
comrades was not enough to defeat the bourgeoisie and the
criminals who were the executors of the restoration which saw
the unity of the national bourgeoisie and the imperialists, who
have unleashed their anti-communism, killing and torturing and
highlighting once again the real face of the bourgeoisie and the
fact that there can be no compromise or conciliation between the
classes of the exploiters and the exploited ." (1974)

And it was Pinochet's Chile which, flayed by one of the
bloodiest counter-revolutions in memory, was used by the United
States as an experimental laboratory for the capitalist
strategies which we know so well today: social control, the
security syndrome, privatization of the economy, dismantlement
of state pensions and the temporarization of labour. That is why
the heritage of mass struggle, self-organization and
anti-fascism must still today feed our historical memory which
is indispensable for the anti-capitalist struggles of today and
tomorrow.

Federazione dei Comunisti Anarchici

http://www.fdca.it

author by iosaf (not trolling)publication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 17:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

To protest against and highlight continuing breaches of human rights and the impunity of many military officers, former politicians and beurocrats.
Concentrations were called for embassies and consulates in spanish language indymedia's yesterday.
=well timed SWM.

author by Son Of Risiblepublication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 18:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Cut & Paste job. Why has the mighty Risible not cut it down?

author by ecpublication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 18:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

.

author by >>>>>Seáinínpublication date Thu Sep 04, 2003 22:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

When you consider how many people Communist governments have killed it suggest that the people of Chile were saved from a far worse disaster. The other benefit of course was that the Soviet Union had one less ally in the Cold War.

A good job well done.

author by ???publication date Fri Sep 05, 2003 00:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Here's a link to a book review about another US supported coup:
http://www.buzzflash.com/premiums/kinzer-shah.html#top

author by berniebirdpublication date Fri Sep 05, 2003 01:41author address author phone Report this post to the editors

the son of one of its co-creators (along with Alan Dulles) happens to be president of the United States! Incidentally, Pinochets bloody coup was a particular first for the CIA asking corporate sponsorship for it's shortfalls in the project- AT&T received the Chilean telecommunications monopoly in return for a comparitively small investment.
I could go on forever about the Bush-Walker connection (William Walker invaded Nicaragua in 1857 and claimed the country as a slave state for the confederate states- he is today hailed as the greatest pioneer of manifest destiny, eh, think about it, a famous US president who is currently in office is named after him)- but suddenly i notice a post from seanin-
... what the f-.........?

author by Righteous Pragmatistpublication date Fri Sep 05, 2003 18:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Allende was a communist and when he came to power that meant of course that the U.S.S.R was in control of Chile.
Had he continued to be in power he would have made a deal with the Russkies to plant nukes in Chile to aim at the U.S.A. just like Castro did in Cuba in 1962.
As in all communist countries the property of all the people would be stolen by the state and used to inrich the Communist Party fatcats and fund their military spending. To keep the populace in line they would have given sweeping powers to the police and army to put down internal dissent. All other voices of protest save those sponsored by the Communists would be crushed.
They'd probably have put up a wall to keep the people in just like in Berlin.
The U.S. decided to eliminate the threat of nukes positioned in Chile and supported Gen. Pinochet because he wanted to do the job. it was his own business what he did after that
Chile became a dictatorship anyway? Too bad.
World War 3 and communist domination of South America was averted. Which made cancelled out the mistake of supporting Pincochet.
Allende rot in hell!

author by berniebirdpublication date Sat Sep 06, 2003 01:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

1) Allende was not communist, though indeed was planning to nationalize all foreign owned enterprises in Chile- such as Cardenas did in the thirties or Chavez is doing now
2)read the news- there were never nukes in Cuba- the satelite photo's were a scam (much like todays Hubble telescope photo's)... USSR had ideas of arming Cuba as the US were placing nukes right at their back door- the Aleuts... also, there was the whole Bay of Pigs fiasco to justify (another Bush family venture...)
3)No matter what the argument against Allende, the actions of Pinochet did not justify the means to his end- ...the favoured method of disposing of lefty dissidents was chucking them out of airplanes over the ocean, or sometimes over the Andes for the condors to pick clean... within the first few months of Pinochets rule, an estimated 14000 died...
aaahhhhh...

author by Sean Dowlingpublication date Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Allende was an idiot. His failure to make preparations for the inevitable military coup against him left thousands of Chilean workers fodder for murder and torture. How come the left was so disorganized that it made no decent effort to defend itself when the coup happened ? Allende should be condemned by the left, not eulogized.

author by Ramón Mercader - Trotwatchpublication date Sat Sep 06, 2003 22:40author address Avenida de la Icepick, 15, Mexico DFauthor phone Report this post to the editors

Lacks all charisma and so is in no danger of becoming the greatdictator of the Leninist vainglorious revolution. Thank fuck. Unless of course Boyd-Barrett fronts the affair. Blrrluecghch..! the thought of it!

author by Lone Gunmanpublication date Sun Sep 07, 2003 01:39author address author phone Report this post to the editors

No nukes in cuba?Thats got to be a scam?Funny why is there a deactivated nuke missile in the grounds of the Cuban war museum?Have you any checkable proof of this intresting bit of revisionism?

Number of comments per page
  
 
© 2001-2025 Independent Media Centre Ireland. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by Independent Media Centre Ireland. Disclaimer | Privacy