Forthcoming Limerick meeting reported on neo-nazi site

by move to africa Thu Jun 12, 2003 17:27

let the reds move to africa so that the congoids can eat them. bono would feed a family of bantus for a week!

by Acidburn Thu Jun 12, 2003 20:10

good information, but whats your point? Are you organising something against this?
Personally, I'd like to have a fascist witch hunt, were we get to burn all those neo-nazis, but I'll also go with the flow...

by Acidburn Fri Jun 13, 2003 01:37

I could'nt help look more into this topic. I came across a large neo-nazi internet community called Stormfront. Out of the 14 countries that this site covers, Ireland is one of them. I honestly didnt think nazi's were all that popular in Ireland...unfortunatly I was wrong.

by Mark - SP Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:18

What does this Stormfront site say about Ireland? Does it give any info about Nazi organisations or those trying to organise?

by Joe Sheehan Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:38

On the stormfront site, there is a discussion board for the idiots no mention of organisers. Only site mentioned in Ireland is for the crew that tried to organise a racist political party they failed! All others are foreign sites that Irish racists subscribe to.

by The Insider Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:07

Apparently there is going to be another debate in Trinity with neo-nazis. A posting on the NSRUS website (National Socialists R US) website has the following:

"June 12th
The University Philosophical Society of Trinity College Dublin has invited NSRUS to send a participant for a meeting ,the subject of the meeting :

Are New Right Political Parties just Parties of Hate
The invitation has been accepted with alacrity by NSRUS.This is the same society that Jorg Haider recently addressed, in veiw of the difficulties he was presented with by the "usual enemies of free speech " no further details will be made public at present"

by Cleaver Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:45

What exactly is the point of this post, is it to highlight that this event is likely to be picketed by fascists or else is it trying to accuse the Limerick Network Against Racism as being in fact a front for some neo-nazi group.

I have no affiliation with LNAR but have had a look at their website & they seem genuine enough being that they count Amnesty, the SP,Limerick Travellers Group and Our Lady Of Lourdes CDP among others as members. Maybe the poster could contact them for comment and make them aware that they are being targeted.

by Cleaver Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:49

Heres the link, check it out for yourselves but it actually seems like quite a good resource to me (I could be wrong of course).

by The Insider Fri Jun 13, 2003 13:02

I'm assuming that it's to warn of the Nazis picketing the Limerick Network against racism.

by Acidburn Fri Jun 13, 2003 13:06

No. It would appear that lnar are not a front for neo-nazi's. But are being targeted by neo-nazi's.

by Nazi-watch Fri Jun 13, 2003 15:26

It's obviously to alert the Limerick activists. They have also been contacted directly.

by The Insider Fri Jun 13, 2003 16:04

Either we can ask the society/university to have the debate cancelled or we could picket it when it takes place.

by Acidburn Fri Jun 13, 2003 21:04

we could sit someone up in a snipers nest above the arch-way, and let them pick off all the skinheads that try to enter...?

by Lone gunman Fri Jun 13, 2003 23:19

you could put together a viable debating team and actually argue in a democratic manner against their points.instead of acting like a bunch of STASI tought police when encountering a protest for democary in East Berlin.

by The Insider Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:13

Indeed there should be some stiff opposition to the Nazis in the debating chamber, but these people are not interested in winning the debate. They are interested in publicity and in being seen as "the other side of the debate", as that by itself confers validity.

Holocaust deniers have the same idea - to be seen as the other side with a legitimate argument, although that's akin to arguing that the 1916 rising never happened and that all evidence from it was faked - there's no "two sides" to these arguments.

by Uzi Sun Jun 15, 2003 02:46

What is Lone Gunman's game? He/she attacks anti-fascists as being closed minded for not debating with nazi creeps. READ THE NAZI POSTING REPRODUCED ABOVE. Especially the following line:

"I think some photographs , car registrations etc should be noted.Perhaps a "personal" interveiw or two maybe necessary"

by Acidburn Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:55

not on the same level with Lone gunman on this isssue, but they made a fair point. The nazi's are taking this opportunity to try to express their views in a somewhat peaceful manner. They're hoping that what ever group is debating against them, will be roaring and ranting, while they stay calm. In doing this, they hope that people will see them from a more positive and proper view point. Thus 'excepting' their views and ideas. If the debate or whatever goes ahead, the opposing side will really have to be prepared and know their shit.
But I'm still up for not letting a single one of those f**ckers through the gate.

by Lone Gunman Sun Jun 15, 2003 13:00

By adapting that sort of tactic of saying you are going out taking car numbers,[proably so obvisouly as to be recognised],threats,proably a bit of fisticuffs.You are playing RIGHT into their hands. "See? we came here for a rational debate and we were threatend and beat up and harrassed.Obvisouly the opposition have somthing to hide."Not only that you now entitle the other side to arm up.And belive me these boys can get some VERY SERIOUS firepower and wont hesitate to use it.
Now,also dont you think it is a bit condescending of the anti side to assume that no one will be able to understand ,and will accept their arguement wholesale?Get Real!I never saw a Fianna Fail politico[EG] lose the rag,but i know that their arguements are Bull excrement! I've read enough of Iriving and the other revionist lot to know that the arguement while good on certain points,just doesnt hold water on actual fact.The best case on the revisionist side is actually made by a Jew. Zundelbaum,about the holocaust industry. now i dont protent to be the brain of Ireland[unlike some here!].But if I can figure out that this is BS than I sure the other average gobdaw at this meet would be able to do so.There is one thing that amuses me about this.Everyone bleats about freedom of speech,police harrasment,blah blah,yada yada yada.
But when somone or a group who dissents with the leftist,PC view.The cries for violence,suppression,heavy handness,erupt at once.
Sorry folks,democracy means you got to tolerate dissenting views.Otherwise you are no different from Nazis or Communists.[Two faces of the same coin INMHO]

by Acidburn Sun Jun 15, 2003 14:39

Exactly. This current 'democracy' just doesnt work on so many levels (my view).
Their views were spoken greatly during the 2nd world war. Is that not enough? I have no time, nor tolerance for racist, hate-loving individuals and I do not want to give them a chance to speak.
Yes, they have a right to free speach and to express their opinion. Just as I have a right to disagree and oppose them. Which I will gladly do.

by Nazi-watch Sun Jun 15, 2003 15:58

The remarks about taking car numbers and conducting "personal interviews" were made by the nazis you idiot! Basically, they were threatening Limerick anti-rascist activists. How does one debate with people who take that approach?

by Lone gunman Sun Jun 15, 2003 18:18

Is the twat who posted the Limerick anti racist site as a pro nazi site,and the fools who were too lazy to check the link.Go back and read the post again.It is making out the site to be pro nazi.A ten year old should be able to figure that out!!!
Then all the others jumped on the anti nazi bandwagon.READ and try to comprehend before you post Nazi watch!!!

Acidburn,I dont support them either.Indeed you have every right to oppose them.Not by violent means though,unlike some fuckwitts on this discussion want to do from both sides.[Obvisouly idiots who have never been in a real nasty left/right street fight and think they are HaHAH hardmen]I do support freedom of speech.You say that their views were made known in WW2. How can that be as the holocaust was only "discoverd" at the end of WW2[well it proably was known well about in 1942 as the allies knew the location and use of Aushwitz,There are areial photos of the camp dated 1943 taken by USAAF & RAF]
So it is a bit difficult to be a holocaust revisionist,on a item that only became historical after 1965 [25 years before events become history].
I dare say you would NOT say anything about the final solution in Nazi germany if you knew what was good for you.

by Acidburn Sun Jun 15, 2003 20:45

No, I would not dare say anything about the final solution in Nazi germany... as I know whats good for me. You got me there gunman. Your knowledge is far superior of WW2 then mine, so I step aside.

by Limerick1919 Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:49 limerick1919 at hotmail dot com

Someone posts a thread alerting us to the POSSIBLE threat of violence by a couple of nazis and you manage to wind it around to explaining why revisionists are right. Fuck off-

the thread was obviously open suggestions for tactical responses- this should be concentrated on

by Lone gunman Wed Jun 18, 2003 20:50

Thank Christ you called !!!We were wondering where the town idiot had got to!! Listen, I know that basic comprehension is not your strong point,and big words are a bit too much for you.So I would suggest you get the nice man in the white coat who gives your medicine to explain the post to you.And maybe if you read the post on[if you can] on the Ayrandawn site you will also see that it is quoted out of context as well.Now how have I turned this around to be a holocaust revisionist?Can you not handle any differention or clarification?obvisouly not!A cretin like you in the medival times would proably burn people who could read without moving their lips!
going by your handle.I would say you are stuck in that year as well,where you could act like a total facist over the people of limerick