NATO approve new Irish Army Commander

by Irish American Thu May 08, 2003 18:07

Ummm, Norb, if "Prof. Marc Herold's exhaustive study" documents 3587 civilian casualties, what does that say about McKenna's credibility, given that he claims "more than 20,000 innocent lives?"

Oh, I get it. The Al-Qaeda and Taliban killed are "innocent?" Is that it? Or is it just a simple lie? Please tell me.

It's not like we might have had some reason to attack them after September 11, 2001, they weren't promising our destruction and acting on that promise, were they? We just asked the Taliban to turn over bin Laden and his crew. The Taliban made their choice, chose to die with it.

And McKenna, what about the WOMEN killed by the Taliban for alleged assorted "indecency" or "adultery" type crimes. That's on videotape, part of the grotesqueries formerly committed at the Kabul football stadium. Cant' deny it. See the documentary "Afghanistan: Behind the Veil."

McKenna says: "What are you going to believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?"

And now the Irish Army is in league with all those horrible imperialist fascist armies: the Canadians, the French, the Germans, the USA, the Romanians, the Italians.

McKenna would say they would be better off in the mountains, fighting with the Taliban and al-Qaeda men to defend their right to keep their women down, by God and all that is decent, Allahu Akbar. Insha' Allah that McKenna would join them!!

by James McKenna Thu May 08, 2003 09:19

As we fall down like trolls for NATO , in semi-secrecy, you want to argue about the number of civilians killed by the US bombing ? I don't. It's grotesque. How many is a war crime?

As for the number of gay men or women killed in Afghanistan, I would love to see some references. I have heard rumours of four men killed in Khandahar for having young boys as sex slaves? Is that who you mean? They were warlords who were kidnapping and raping but I don't know how "homosexual" they were as they also had wives and families too.

Mr Bush has sentenced more homosexuals to death as governor of Texas. How many homosexuals were among the victims of the US bombing campaign? Do you care or do you only care if it has propaganda value.

The Taliban did come to power because the people approved of their direct action against the warlords who were systematically raping and kidnapping young boys and girls from villages. The Taliban were students who took up rifles to protect their brothers and sisters from rapists , kidnappers and murderers. It was the US who in it's "plan" to control a unified Afghanistan for the oil pipeline convinced them to take more and more of the country and set up a government. Only a united Afghanistan could guarntee the safety of a precarious pipeine.

Then in July/August 2001 the stupid white men realised the Taliban are fundamentalists who see them as the devil and no amount of gold was ever going to buy their co-operation with what they see as the work of Satan. Then the propaganda, then the Pentagon and World Trade attacks, then the bombing of Afghanistan , then the US picked puppet government in Kabul PROTECTED BY THE IRISH ARMY, then lawlessness , then.......

by Norb Wed May 07, 2003 21:40

Claims of 20,000 deaths are absurd? Hardly.
Prof. Marc Herold's exhaustive study documents more than 3,500 civilan casualties from the US/UK bombing campaign. Given that the targets were Taliban and Al Queda forces, it seems probable that more than a few of them were killed as well!

by Irish American Wed May 07, 2003 19:45

Oh yes, bring back the Taliban, they were "authentic," weren't they? They didn't finish destroying all the Buddhist statues and killing all the homosexuals in the country.

Oh, yes, what was your source for the absurd assertion that "20,000" were killed by bombing in Afghanistan?? taliban.com?