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Friday May 02, 2003 13:22 by Friends of CPGB
People appeared a bit flabbergasted and turned to look at me, expecting perhaps to see an MI5 spy or a member of the BNP in their midst. Ban on CPGB Andrew Murray and Lindsay German, who effectively form the leadership of the Stop the War Coalition, put the movement in a bad political light this week when they acted as dyed-in-the-wool bureaucrats determined to stifle openness, accountability and democracy. The CPGB, as one of the affiliated organisations of the coalition, had been informed that we could attend as observers at the April 28 steering committee meeting. We had been told this at the conference in January and had double-checked with the office organiser, Gargy, last week, who gave us the details. I therefore went along as our representative. I arrived just as the meeting of about 60 was beginning. There was a debate around slogans taking place. I could not help but notice how STWC chair Andrew Murray (a member of the Morning Star?s Communist Party of Britain) and national convenor Lindsay German (Socialist Workers Party) stared in my direction from the top table and whispered furtively. Then Jane Challice, treasurer, was beckoned over by Lindsay German. She in her turn came to where I was sitting at the back of the room. She demand to know who I was and what I was doing there. I calmly explained. She left, not looking too happy, and went back to speak to comrades German and Murray. She then returned to tell me that they did not allow observers and I must leave immediately. I refused and said my presence was entirely legitimate and that it should be put to the meeting. Jane Challice then proceeded to announce that ?there is somebody in the meeting who should not be here and she says she is entitled to be here as an observer but we do not allow observers?. People appeared a bit flabbergasted and turned to look at me, expecting perhaps to see an MI5 spy or a member of the BNP in their midst. The man beside me complained that meetings should not be held in secret. Gargy then spoke and said she had told us we could attend and that there were several other observers present whom she had invited. It was clear from her response that there had never been any such attempt at an exclusion before. Even though she held a position of responsibility within the STWC, it seems she was unaware of any ban. Two other comrades identified themselves as observers, shocked to find themselves suddenly in the firing line of a witch-hunt. Andrew Murray then spoke and said that it was not and never had been the practice to have observers. He then muttered something about it being particularly important, given there were ?sensitive issues? to be discussed. I asked to have the decision put to the meeting. I urged the STWC not to set a harmful and undemocratic precedent. I argued that the coalition needed to be open and these meetings should not be held behind the back of the movement. I also defended the presence of the CPGB as an affiliated organisation that had worked hard to build the demonstrations. Moreover we had been informed we could attend. I believe that I had the sympathy of much of the meeting. Comrade Murray said that he had made a ruling as chair but would put it to a vote anyway. It seemed he was trying to make it appear that a vote against his ruling would be a direct challenge to the chair. As an adept bureaucrat he was clearly trying to undermine any support for me. The vote was approximately 15 for the exclusion of observers, with five or six against. Murray announced that the vote had been carried with ?a few abstentions?. But he had not asked for an indication of abstentions and shamefully at least half the meeting had not taken part in the vote. He then demanded that we leave. There were a number who looked very hurt. This was a clear attack on the CPGB which had hit others too. It certainly showed the logic of witch-hunts. Unless stopped everyone suffers. Nevertheless Murray, German and Challice got what they wanted. Due to their narrow and self-serving sectarianism the movement will be denied a report in the Weekly Worker of how the STWC is thinking. That is a real loss. Our paper has after all won a deserved reputation for unequalled reporting and analysis of the politics of the left in Britain. This is particularly vital as the present time. Iraq is under occupation and the US is making threatening noises towards Syria and North Korea. There is also the whole issue of George Galloway. Should we defending him against the Blairite purge? (I think we should.) Should we allow The Daily Telegraph to smear the whole anti-war movement by standing up for Galloway uncritically? (I think we should not.) Instead of the Weekly Worker the movement will have to rely on the usual anodyne STWC press releases and clipped pronouncements made by Andrew Murray and Lindsay German. Naturally in the inner sanctums - certainly on the CPB?s executive and the SWP?s political committee - something approaching the truth will be told. But that is considered too dangerous, too intoxicating for mere rank and file activists and those outside the charmed circle. Should we expect anything else from comrade Murray? Not when we consider his origins and political CV. Before the ultra-right Marxism Today faction dissolved the ?official? CPGB in 1991, Murray was a loyal lieutenant of Fergus Nicholson - the éminence grise of the ?broad left? monthly Straight Left and leader of his own carefully CPGB managed opposition faction. To get a flavour of how Nicholson imagined himself in his inner thought-world all one need know is his nom de plume - Harry Steel. Harry comes from the first name of Harry Pollitt, CPGB general secretary from the late 1920s to 1956, when he became chair. Steel is taken from Stalin - the ?man of steel?. Murray broke with Nicholson in the 1990s, organisationally but not politically. And after being one of the main movers behind the short lived publication Communist Liaison, he and his micro-faction threw in their lot with the Rob Griffiths-John Haylett wing of the CPB. He once wrote regularly in the Morning Star taking particular delight in attacking the ?Trotskyites of the Socialist Alliance?. Now he works full-time for the traindrivers union Aslef. To sum up, Murray is an unreconstituted Stalinite. All we need say about comrade German is that, though she and her organisation are retrospectively anti-Stalin and for democracy in the Soviet Union, when it comes to present-day Britain she and Murray make a perfect couple. Different backgrounds, yes, but common bureaucratic methods and instincts. Clearly we must fight to overcome the closed culture being imposed upon the STWC. There is nothing natural about it. After all in the Socialist Alliance any member may attend the national council and even the executive finds the presence of observers and substitutes unproblematic. Sadly comrade Murray shows disdain not for his bęte noire, the Weekly Worker, but for everyone in the STWC he professes to represent. He and comrade German rightly criticised the Westminster parliament for being undemocratic before the Iraq war. Now they behave in a manner akin to those 19th century Tories who refused to allow the press to report the proceedings of parliament. That leading socialists behave in this way in the 21st century brings shame upon our entire movement. It is not the British state they are afraid of, but honest criticism. Talk of ?sensitive issues? is just a foil - one thing you can guarantee is that MI5 will have their plants at the very top of the STWC. The exclusion of affiliates should be roundly condemned by all democrats. This is not about my rights or the rights of the CPGB. This is about the rights of the anti-movement to hear the truth. Anne Mc Shane |
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This is about the UK and should be posted on indymedia.co.uk not ie
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This is about the tactics of a group in the UK and should be posted on indymedia.ie for those who have dealings with their subordinate parties in the regions.
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Even the AWM/IAWM cancelled the original conference date and transformed it into an 'Assembly' to coincide with May 10th STWC Assembly on the mainland.
The IAWM and the STWC are not the same group, though some of their components are related. This article is not original reporting, its a copy of an article from the CPGB's paper.
Have people nothing better to do with their time?
If you think this article has something important to say about the IAWM or the SWP, then add it as a comment in an article about the IAWM or SWP.
Get some perspective, for fuck's sake.
what the hell is the CPGB stand for? i know its not the place the Ramones used to play in New York cos thats CBGBs. if your posting articles it would be advisable to at least explain these things not everyone reading this is already converted.
Communist Party of Great Britain.
Don't you feel better for knowing?
We know the British SWP tell the Irish SWP what to do but this is the STWC and the IAWM?
They seem to spend most of their time following the SWP around and reporting (normally very critically) on what they are up to. They have the curious property of being honest, open trots - in that their reports generally seem to be accurate accounts of what happens at the various committee meetings, rather than the anodyne "Another great meeting, the revolution draws closer" reports that most trot groups produce. For their troubles they are loathed by the more secretive trot groups (ie all the other ones) and although I can't think of a sillier thing to do that to follow the SWP around criticising them, their paper is tbe best way of finding out what the trots are really up to in the UK, and to a lesser extent internationally. For example, they produced the only detailled account of the forces behind the ESF and their machinations.
What's more, the CPGB article focusses its criticism on some bloke from the CPB. This is obviously an old grudge - the CPB and CPGB are both offshoots from the old CP - but makes it even less relevant to Ireland, because there isn't a CPB here, or even a CPB offshoot.
I'd be quite happy to see this removed. Indymedia has enough arguing between Irish left groups as it is without having to copy over reports of arguments between British left groups.
if its removed now it will result in complaints and more shit stirring. is it worth it?
Hardly honest Trots - they're Stalinists.
Sorry, conflating all leninists together. I should have said, "honest, open leninists".
Thanks for the correction.
Took the broader view on Trots, even included the NCP & other lovely Leninists as well as SWP, Millies, WRP frags etc.
Maybe its time to reanimate it.
At least not in the traditional sense of the word meaning a party linked to moscow/peking and following Stalnis line in the Stalin/Trotsky split
The original CPGB were stalinists but they wound themselves up back in the 90's (wiser then the local CP I guess). The name was then taken by a group that had perviously been know as 'The leninist'. Today they are a sort of 'neo-leninist' group that includes ex-trots and ex-stalinists. They are less stalinist then RC in Italy in that respect for what it matters.
The paper is very odd to say the least but unlike a lot of the leninist press has a useful self-critical side to it. That is in terms of leninism in general, they seem to be a cagey as the rest when they get into internal rows. Mind you they hate anarchists even more so then some of the domestic varieties which is saying something.
> The IAWM and the STWC are not the same group,
> though some of their components are related.
Thanks for spotting that one for us Ray. Would you not agree that the key components are the same i.e. SWP.
> This article is not original reporting, its a
> copy of an article from the CPGB's paper.
This is indymedia ireland. I know that ye might want that to be just independent media from independent Irish people but to be honest, articles that help people join the dots between groups who have democratic centralist lines universally is worth showing. Not everybody is sad enough to go online to look at the Weekly Worker - the left's tabloid.
> Have people nothing better to do with their time?
By you taking the time to answer this that probably makes two of us Ray.
> If you think this article has something
> important to say about the IAWM or the SWP,
> then add it as a comment in an article about
> the IAWM or SWP.
Get rid of your comments button then, shit it made me want to leave a comment seeing the remove, remove comment.
> Get some perspective, for fuck's sake.
Ditto!
Yes, the SWP in the UK is in the STWC, and the SWP here is in the IAWM.
But that doesn't mean that every report on SWP(UK) activity should be posted over here. That's just obsessive.
If you want to draw a connection between the SWP(UK)'s actions in the STWC, and 'our' SWP's in the IAWM, then write that story, or add a comment along those lines to an article about the IAWM. The last thing this site needs (okay, ONE of the last things) is an article copied from a British Leninist paper about what a Stalinist got a Trot to do at a committee meeting for a campaign that's dead in the water. I mean really, there is more to the world than this, you know?
Fair enough!!
Sometimes we just cannae help ourselves.
Just as well I didn't post any articles on the SSP and there great result or the fact that the CWI gamble on McAllion dinnae work. Now that he hasn't won his seat, will he still be joining the SSP. No doubt the CWI members in Dundee will discourage from doing so. Not pure enough and all that.
With Frances Curran winning a seat, the troika will have difficulty keeping anything down this weekend.
Then there's already an article here somewhere about the CWI and the SSP, you could add it there.
I don't see any point in posting an article about the Scottish election results when the information is easily available in any online British paper. If you had some interesting analysis to add, then maybe, but then we're back to the question of why spend that time and energy obsessing about some foreign Trots?
WHAT GETS YOU MOST UPSET RAY, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE "TROTS" OR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE "FOREIGN"
Actually they're probably Schachtmanites (see USSR etc. as "bureaucratic socialist", he saw them as "bureaucratic collectivist") although they don't realise it quite yet.