Microwave weapons!

by King Mob Tue May 14, 2002 17:05

Got you're right how dare I get hung up on details and proof, I mean they're trival little matters which should be ignored.

Ginger; care to elaborate on the microwave weapons used at Greenham common, I know I know here I am asking for the pesky evidence, and details again.

People who mindless believe all conspiracies, are real are just as close minded as people who dismiss all them out of them same closed mindness.

Look theres no room where the anicent illuminati'd plot and scheme. Or there is, they're the WTO and IMF, and ranting like your distracts people from the truth.

As for the false memory syndrome, Ginger you may not have worked first hand with the survivors of abuse, but I have, and Jim's attitude is disgusting.

So you're older and wiser and seen shit you wouldn't believe attitude is just crap. Take your illuminati and false memory syndrome and go to alt.paranoia.nutjobs

Jim your threats are tedious. And your rants about facist thugs and who's going to fight them are genuinely laughable. Go away this is a NEWS site.

by Jim Cairns - The Missing Persons Issue Ireland Tue May 14, 2002 15:28 jacque at iol dot ie Troysgate KK 71614

I have been in this crusade since 1994 , when I fled to Kilkenny after an abduction attempt by the UVF. I have had seven years of discovery , research and revelations which will be eventually exposed . Maybe sooner than the two creeps King Mob and Daithe expect.

After 30 years of war in Ulster ,I am hardened and a very angry person , I have seen friends killed , experienced evil like few can imagine and have been recently physically attacked by three thugs, my windows in my house have been smashed , my car has been damaged.
I have had several death threats. So I know what real trouble is.
I also have been writing for many years for
Alternative news sites in the USA but I have never been made more angry than on this encounter with the creeps on this site!

Good men and women fought and gave their lives to fight fascism and it angers me greatly when creeps and morons on this site , who would not have the bottle to face up to fasdcist thugs when the time comes!
And it will come but they will hide behind their computers or their mammys.

by Daithi Tue May 14, 2002 12:56

Do you wonder why we doubt your credibility?

Let's look at your website..just because you link to an unrelated story on another website doesn't make your rants true.

You know, your microwave weapon story could have made sense if it wasn't coming from the same person that is responsible for the allegations below.

Here's a few hints - see if they jog your memory.

(1)
http://www.esatclear.ie/~cairhaven/RTEsatanicsymbol.htm

RTE on-screen IDs contain evil symbols of the Illuminati. I suppose the Indymedia logo contains similar representations - well we are all morons! Why not satanic morons?

(2)
From your front page - about the Illuminati, New World Order and even the Jesuits!

"These organisations are planning the merging of many faiths into the apostate one world church that will be serving Satan.

The New Age Movement is also part of the plan. They are controlled by Satan and are linked to the above organisations"

(3)
The media conspiracy not to report the things that you're concerned about.

"The Broxtowe , Nottingham and Orkney Satanic abuse cases and the Mark Dutroux (Belgium) Satanic murder allegations were not published in the Irish press!

The many SRA and Satanic related murders in the USA have not been published in the Irish press and media! The recent "Snuff" expose's in Russia , with links to the UK and Italy have not been widely covered in the Irish press! "

(4)
United in Christ?

"I have no doubt that the IRA and the UVF are involved in my problems, I have no doubt that the one common denominator in both organisations is the Born Again Christians, and I have no doubt that that organisation is nothing more than a Satanist organisation involved in ritual murders..."

(5)
Yeats http://www.esatclear.ie/~cairhaven/archive-wbyeats.htm

"WB Yeats was certainly involved in occultism and more likely in devilworship, like many others in the Anglo-Irish protestant community at that time and today! "

"There can be no doubt that the Irish aristocracy have always been heavily involved in various forms of witchcraft and the socalled occult.
WB Yeats is revered as the Irish Republic's national poet and held in great esteem by "some". I am personally baffled by much of his "poetry" which I find very hard to understand"

by jim cairns - the Missing Persons Issue Ireland Tue May 14, 2002 12:05 jacque at iol dot ie 10 Troysgate KK 71614

The moronobviously gad a gander at my site ,
The Missing Persons Issue Ireland ,

www.esatclear.ie/~cairhaven

something has peaved the half wit! Maybe something rang true with him but he cant face up to it!

My site is about missing persons , child abuse , ritual abuse , ritual murder or satanic murder,
! With ritual murder , the Illuminati are most often involved!
In the words of a coven member I have on audio tape ; " in respect of covens in Ireland and internationally , one finds that "respectable" members of society are most likely to be amongst its ranks".

Time for the brat moron to grow up!!!!!

Does the moron know anything about the Dutroux case in Belgium, most likely not , he woukld be too busy playing baby politics!

The Dutroux case involved the Belgium Illuminati , right up to the king!
Jean Nicklas , reporter has published a book recently in which he outlines the real truth behind that scandal!

Time for baby moron brat to grow up!

Young girls were murdered in satanic sacrifices where chosen elites watched on!

In the near future , we will find the exact smae thing has been and very likely still is happening in Ireland , with the hot spots centres in SE Leinster!
Many politicians know of my information!

Replace the moron as administrator!

by Ginger Tue May 14, 2002 01:49

King Mob said:
4. You attempt to co-opt the genuine tragedy of child abuse into your warped little world, insulting the pain and hurt suffers have gone through by claiming "It never happened, except in Your mind".

Tell me where he says this? It seems he is saying that those who don't believe him (i.e. you) are the same as those who support the False Memory Syndrome, and it is the latter who constantly tell the child that it only happened in their head.

Second, the quickness to ridicule this guy for his theories leads me to believe that you are all very young. I'm not and I know that microwave technologies were used against the protestors at Greenham Common. I also know that you should not laugh when people speak of 'Illuminati' as they are at work everywhere - or at least groups who operate in the same way.

And why the constant calls for 'proof' - just who would you believe on any of these subjects? A government scientist? A university professor? Who could you find that is not in some way bound to the state or its directors?

by King Mob Tue May 14, 2002 01:33

10. Fox Mulder looks at you and mutters "Weirdo".

9. The CIA place your report into microfilm and use them as the Christmas Cracker Gags.

8. You go, "say what you like about David Icke but the fella's onto something, if you ignore the lizards."

7. You keep ranting about the Irish Illuminati.

6. You start mutterin celebrities are involved.

5. You make unsubsitante leaps of logic. i.e.

Microwave weapons might exist.

Some anonymous guy was in Genoa and he claimed he was in a room with electronic gear.

Therefore the Gardaí will use microwave weapons againist us.

4. You attempt to co-opt the genuine tragedy of child abuse into your warped little world, insulting the pain and hurt suffers have gone through by claiming "It never happened, except in Your mind".

3. You loudly demand the right to speak but constantly repeat yourself and don't bother to face y'know them facts.

2. You start threating anyone who laughs at your theories with violence. How are ya going to recognise me?

1. You say "Theres an article on Philip Cairns in the News of the World".

Well if the news of the world last bastion of honest journalism, berefit of hyperbole and exaggeration, said it, it must be bleeding well true.

C'mon Jim you're making this too easy for me.

by Richard Littlerichard Tue May 14, 2002 01:29

Well, if it was in the News of the World it must be true...

by jim cairns - the Missing Persons Issue Ireland Tue May 14, 2002 00:38 jacque at iol dot ie 10 Troysgate Kilkenny 056 71614

One would think that someone living in this very violent city would watch his mouth , but the King Mob is just pushing it , someday he is gona say too much to the wrong person!
I come from the north and there is a saying up there about big mouths;
"someday your mouth will dig your grave"!
I am, not threatening you but by the way you are spouting off at the mouth ; someone someday will shut it!

This moron thinks he has got me all summed up , but the Site The Missing Persons Issue Ireland is MY site! I put it up and the information is mine!

Something is happening now and big mouth might just eat his words in the near future . There was an article in the News of the World last sunday about Phillip Cairns.

I hope there are other viewers , besides the moron , who will realise there is more going on than simply Globalisation !

The moron will eat his words someday and if I get close him , maybe I will help him do just that!

by King Mob Mon May 13, 2002 21:42

You'll notice none of says we disputed this weapon, it's dangerous it's more Jim's insane wittering we object to (oooh no the scary conspiracy theorist threatened to beat me up).

I don't go around acusing people I disagree with insane, I go around calling people who make unsubstiated allegations (child abuse as a form of mind control it never actually happened and Gardaí using microwave weapons, not to mention the irish Illuminati) insane.

You don't provide prove of anything that you say, you should go back to soiling your adult diapers and waiting for your 4pm thorazine.

by Terry Mon May 13, 2002 16:47

I think the author on the original posting here may have
got the microwave weapon mixed up.

It is possible it has been confused with a microwave crowd
dispersal weapon, which has already been developed and tested
by the US military, by the Air Force Research Laboratory in
New Mexico.

The general details are this would be mounted on a large van or truck
which would have a generator and directed at the target crowd.

The microwave weapon works on the same principle of the microwave oven,
which is based on the fact, that are several microwave frequencies, water
is a very strong absorber of microwaves. It is this ability which allows
food to absorb the microwaves and rapidly heat. Likewise the human
body is largely composed of water too. The microwave beam can be
kept in a relatively narrow beam and is effective up to about 200 meters.

What happens is that it rapidly heats the top millimeter or so of the skin and
this results in a sharp pain, like putting your hand on a hotplate. The
weapon has already been tested on animals and microwave power levels worked
out and agreed. However critics have already argued that the safety standards
used are inadequate, because they used safety levels for a given power level
spread over about half a hour, whereas this happen will deliver to the full
body in a matter of seconds. Other critics of this weapon have pointed out that
it could easily overheat and damage the lens of your eye.

The potential for abuse with this weapon is clearly enormous.

For news reports of this weapon see for example:
http://www.microwavenews.com/microwaveweapon.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2001/010302-npr.htm
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0110/msg00174.html

A final comment to some of the later postings. I notice that many
people have been very quick to slag off the whole thing, but I think
until you are familiar with the technical details of what is possible
and what is not, then you should keep an open mind. The weapon as
described above is not speculation, it exists and is ready for
deployment, but for the moment, this is more likely to take place in
a country like Colombia rather than Ireland.

by Mazirian - University Of Life Mon May 13, 2002 12:37

Surely this is just satirical writing? Otherwise, I suggest you seek help for your paranoia.

by jim cairns - The Missing Persons Issue Ireland Mon May 13, 2002 01:26 jacque at iol dot ie 10 troysgate Kilkenny 056 71614

If you are allowing me to submit articles to your site, then it is not a free speech forum , This is your innovation and anyone who disagrees with you is called insane !
I hope you are a big guy , cause I am!
Next time you call people such names , make sure you have your girl friends to hold your hand!

by King Mob Mon May 13, 2002 00:12

You're dribbling now, you're the second person who's claimed that sexual assaults by children have been faked.

Having witnessed first hand the damage child abuse reaps even years after the assault.

Your ranting are the sick delusions of someone who wants to twist actual events and suffering into your warped world view.

The people you refer to as weekend socialists are the ones who allow you to publish this nonsense and the people who are actively campaigning for social change unlike your insanity

by Jim Cairns - The Missing Persons Issue Ireland Sun May 12, 2002 23:42 jacque at iol dot ie 10 Troysgate Kilkenny 056 71614

Well if you want to throw insults I can do that too,
One would consider that members of a leftwing site would seriously consider such threats to its future activities but you guys behave as if you are sympathetic to the establishment who are in possession of these technologies!

Maybe some of you guys are not lefties!

It seems to annoy several of you when psychotronic weapons are mentioned . I wonder why!
I have given you several links, example Tim Rifat , an acknowledged scientist into the new microwave technologies but still you so called experts claim to know more than he
. Where do you get off?
You ask for evidence! What do you want me to do ? Send you a prototype microwave weapon so you can test it yourself?

Conspiracy theory is it?

Have you ever heard of the "False Memory Syndrome" theory supporters?
This refers to those who challenge the allegations of abuse made by under age children.

These FMS supporters claim that it is only a figment in the memory of the children, in other words , the abuse never took place!
You are the equivalent to the False Memory Syndrome lot , only in the debate on microwave weapons and mind control.

By the way , forget the lizard comments , this wont work with me!
I met Icke in Trinity College , and all of the students gave him a standing ovation!

By the way , I am not a student , I am 55yrs and a lot more life behind me than most of you weekend socialists,

wait till things get really hot with the fascist's plans and then we will see who runs home to mama!

by Daithi Sun May 12, 2002 23:41

Phuq Head - right now, when I, or anyone who's on active editorial, hides a post, it's sent to an archive list. I believe (but am not up to speed on the details) that the question of the software that we're running here be changed to allow posts and comments etc to be "hidden" rather than "deleted" has already been discussed in techie circles.

At the moment, discussion takes place on the newswire mailing list ([email protected]) and deleted posts are sent to [email protected]. The types of articles that we normally delete are as set out in the editorial guidelines - reposting of comments as news, advertisements, obviously inaccurate articles etc. Recently we've also being deleting crossposted articles (i.e. where someone places the same article on all the IMC newswires across the world).

It's not a flawless system and discussion on *to hide or not to hide* can often be heated. I wouldn't consider the amusing remarks of our Missing Persons friend to be something that should be hidden :) I don't think that he's taken all that seriously by any reader.

Are you on the tech list ([email protected]) ? I would say that the wonderful people on that list would be happy with your help re: coding - set up [email protected] (I'm sure it's not already taken) and subscribe to it.

by Phuq Hedd Sun May 12, 2002 23:26

Daithi,
many of the other indymedia sites feature "hidden" comments. The hidden posts are still accessible for those that choose to read them, so its not censorship. Its a way of saying, we don't want to be associated with this, but if you feel you need the information there it is.
Do you need some coders to help implement this? I can volunteer in a months time.

by Daithi Sun May 12, 2002 22:24

You see, this is what drags all the work that Indymedia's done right down into the gutter, all we need to do now is do a feature on Elvis being alive and well and working as a milkman in Shankill and we'll be grand.

Jim's quoting of Senator Glenn out of context is hilarious - Glenn was talking about a broader issue of consent to new drugs/experiments but this is OF COURSE proof that there are widespread and organised trials in progress that are playing with our minds. "I'm being zapped" "How are you? Vodaphone".

Listen, when someone says provide a link it doesn't mean provide a random link! There is certainly potential for electronic warfare but that doesn't mean that your ranting and raving makes any more sense.

Luckily enough, this news item is saved from complete condemnation by Marcos's piece on electronic surveillance. Unfortunately, it's badly served by the ráiméis that surrounds it. This is a serious issue that we all need to consider - whereas Jim should turn off his computer (which is no doubt spewing electromagnetic waves that are frying his brain in a secret experiment conducted by an unholy trilogy of the CIA, the World Bank, and Eircom**) and save himself before the bad men come to get him before he spoils their plan.

** now we know why Internet charges are so high! The Illuminati are controlling the rates. New logo for Eircom Net is a lizard, watch this space :)

by Jim Cairns - The Missing Persons Issue Ireland Sun May 12, 2002 21:49 jacque at iol dot ie 10 troysgate Kilkenny 056 71614

Clinton was quized by Senator John Glenn on this very topic! Please read the links!
It is happening in the US and UK !!!

Are you naive or what?
Read the links above!

by Markos Sun May 12, 2002 21:09

If this is going to turn out to be conspiracy page then it's about time someone mentioned ECHELON and encryption.

The reason the gvt's don't object to the UK and US monitoring us is because they want to reserve that right for themselves.

Why didn't David Andrews make more of an issue out of the fact that the UK had been monitoring a telecommunications pipe where it went to shore out of the Irish Sea and had the facility openly up for sale? "Ah that was alright lads, we don't mind" Was the best they could come up with.

The reason is because they want to, or are actively putting internet monitoring devices to scan for keyphrases, en masse on communications coming in and out of Ireland - like the FBI are doing with their "Carnivore" system in the US.

There y'go. Trust no one, encrypt at 128k.

by Comrade Jim Sun May 12, 2002 20:39

I know the Us spend billions on developing new weapons. And maybe they have a new microwave weapon but do you really think that they are going to give to the gardai for free.

come on G.W.Bush dosen't even know where Ireland is. And the Joint Chiefs haven't even got a Cert from High School.

As far as the CIA having a office in Ireland is complet bull.

MI5 and the CIA offered to fund Miltary Service (can't rember the name) and the goverment told Said NO.

by King Mob Sun May 12, 2002 20:17

See when Daithi asked for more evidence, I think he was actually asking for y'know proof. You took it to mean more conjecture and speculation.

I loved the bit about the Irish Illuminati, I can see Haughey, O'Reilly, and their minions in full regal robes standing on Tara reinacting their rituals for many a generation....

"What about ye lads"

Yes a microwave can be used as a weapon, but y'know, you've given no evidence to back up your ludricous claims.

by Jim Cairns - The Missing Persons Issue Ireland Sun May 12, 2002 17:16 jacque at iol dot ie 10 Troysgate Kilkenny 056 71614

Surely there are a few , at least , amongst the democratic/left who understand the possibilities of electronic warfare!
For those of you who are not au fait with everything electronic , have a good look what your microwave oven can do to anything which contains water; ie flesh.
The human body contains 2/3 water content! One can see what the same wavelength of microwave could do to human flesh.
Varying the micriowave wavelengths produces different effects.

I am involved in electrical engineerinmg , and so I can appreciate the dangers!

Only the naive and foolish will ignore the threats posed by these in the hands of the far right!
Imagine what Hiler could have done with such weapons!

Anyhow , this is only part of my remit !
My main purpose is to expose the present plans by the Irish Illuminati/elites with their Garda pals in tow. The present Garda are the lackeys for the Irish Illuminati , who are subserviant to their masters in corporate USA and CIA, the true leaders of the New World Order!

Does anyone remember when Clinton was in office and he was asked about CIA involvement with psychotronic attacks on US citizens?
Link added with various documented cases, some published by US press!
How much evidence do you need , or are you Luddites?

by Daithi Sun May 12, 2002 15:35

Jim - remember seeing that bit on the bottom of the web pages here? "Radical, accurate and passionate tellings of truth"?

Now I'm open to accepting that your claims are not foolish, unsubstantiated, entirely derivative of American arguments, badly written and ill-judged, barely sane, scientifically stupid, practically impossible, ignorant of reality, childish, counter-productive, paranoid, and of course blatantly devoid of evidence; but I (among others, I would believe) require a little more, shall we say, proof, before believing that you are any more than a crank.

by King Mob - [email protected] Sun May 12, 2002 14:53

Just when I thought we couldn't look any more idiotic....

Jim in the last week some daft and moronic things have been put up on Indymedia, but wow, microwave weapons, you're an idiot.

One of the Gardaí excuses was they were having trouble with the new radio system, the PULSE computer isn't staffed by trained operators, and you think they're goin to using fucking microwave weapons!

So many people react sceptically to Indymedia and idiotic and inane posts like yours, which you can't even substaniate or support aside from an anonmyous source who isn't even sure what happened, and you draw your insane conclusion; it leaves people doubting whether Indymedia is in any way credible.

You've won my vote from dumbest posting ever.