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stop the war press conference
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40763

Green Party NI
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40726&start=0&sid=10407

Sinn Fein write two hundred words:
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40716

Globalise Resistance write some more:
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40688

Raghillaigh writes lots
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40677

iosaf gives you his experience with Bushes.
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40673

Sparks gave you his article
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40647

Belfast anti war group thiers:
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40638

Bush Visit and North Peace Process
http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40716

Gr call for emergency mobilisation for Monday
http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40688

Bush to visit NI to discuss Iraq War
http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40677

Warlord Bush For Belfast
http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40638

Alert: Bush and Blair Summit in Ireland
http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=40601

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Strong Statement from Durkan / SDLP at above link reported by RTE

by dataflow 4

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:01

showcase

by Justa Moron - Sinn Fail

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:05

Thanks to Gerry Adams the Good Friday Agreement is now a model on how to settle conflict, including Iraq.

Mr Paisley may join protests at hillsb. Jazus

by what if you don't have any teeth Mr. Paisley

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:06

from Ireland.com

links to organisation websites

by iosaf

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:16

The Parties to the NI conflict

Northern Irelands women's coalition.
http://www.niwc.org/
Ulster Unionist Party
http://www.uup.org/
Ulster Democratic Party
http://www.udp.org/
Social Democratic and Labour Party
http://www.sdlp.ie/
Sinn Fein
http://sinnfein.ie/
Police Service of Northern Ireland
http://www.psni.police.uk/
Democratic Unionist Party
http://www.dup.org.uk/
The Alliance Party
http://www.allianceparty.org/

in addition there are several groupings of the left including the Socialist Workers Party who have well organised throughout the North of Ireland in the last weeks.
Also The Workers Party have shown serious mobilisation of their supporters.
The Northern Ireland Green Party have already made a statement along with a few of the above on this newswire links above.

http://www.nio.gov.uk/
UK Northern IReland office
http://www.irlgov.ie/iveagh/
Ireland Gov website provides extensive links to the UK site naturally.

http://www.orangenet.org/
the orange hub of the internet.

Northern Ireland is home to just short of two million people who are generally considered to be above the normal European level of "Politicisation". They are however below the usual level of "Globalisation awareness".

These next few days will prove interesting.
Northern Ireland has several Media organs
belfast telegraph.
knew two hours before Sinn Fein.
Irish news
BBC ulster radio and TV programs.
UTV.

women co-ordinators NI

by -

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:27

women co-ordinators NI
http://www.niwc.org/reps.asp

North South co-ord body of Irish and NI state
http://www.northsouthministerialcouncil.org/

US consul Belfast
US Consulate General, Belfast, Northern Ireland Queen's House 14 Queen
Street Northern Ireland BT1 6EQ.

MAP
http://www.a-zoftourism.com/Maps-in-Belfast-id111-p0.htm

has zoom feature.

Northern Ireland Police office data on roads subject to closure and accidents
http://www.psni.police.uk/newsfiles/blankpress.asp?ID=1834

emails

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:37

e-mails
by dataflow again Fri, Mar 14 2003, 1:33pm

be nice.

And they are off.

by ipsiphi

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:40

first Unionist block press statement
this follow the Belfast Telegraph report yesterday which sees the visit as possible the most "significant" step in recent NI history.

Bush and Blair must treat terrorists the same everywhere

DUP Deputy Leader Peter D Robinson MP MLA commented this evening upon the news that Tony Blair and President Bush are to visit Northern Ireland next week. Mr Robinson said,

“With the Allies fighting against a terrorist dictator in Iraq, it is crucial that the same approach is adopted in Northern Ireland. Terrorism is the same the world over, whether it is responsible for atrocities in Northern Ireland or New York. To adopt one approach to Saddam and another to the IRA would demonstrate that a greater value was put on the lives of those in Iraq than the people of Northern Ireland. Whilst we support the actions in Iraq it is vital that this moral case is not compromised by actions to prop up terrorists in Northern Ireland.
It will be interesting to see if the President goes along with the Blair line of seeking to silence the majority voice within unionism. One way or another the voice of the majority of unionists will be heard.”

Next up will be the UUP and smaller pro-union parties.
the characters on the big table so to speak.
get your broomstick out and prepare to move them tactically accross the map.

filling in the blanks.

by .

Sat Apr 05, 2003 17:49

Mr Bush is not terribly well advised we all know this.
HE is a poor befuddled type.
heavy on the "protestant religion vibe" though he shares "anglicanism" as his official religious denomination with Blair.

This is a link to the USA orange order.
http://www.orangenet.org/loiusa/OrangeUSA.html
and here is a "article" published in the Belfast Telegraph by a "irish republican" supporting the Orange "right to march".
http://www.orangenet.org/loiusa/Opinion.html
I particularly like the
"why we shouldn't blacken orangemen" bit.
quite right that would be a different order entirely.
sure an apprentice orangeman ye can nae be!
my thoughts on Orange men last year
http://ireland.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=12753&start=3860 for irland's last RTS day.

Belfast Grassroots

by Belfast Grassroots

Sat Apr 05, 2003 18:34

Grassroots Belfast

Come Sunday or earlier.

0044 (0)7720863770.

small flowers(bits of grass), crack concrete.

ps
has our original message been taken off the newswire?????

Nice little trap for Peace Protesters ?

by THe Paddy's Day War

Sat Apr 05, 2003 19:02

Who according to at least one FG TD Jim Higgins are infiltrated by 'rabble, some of whom had a considerable amount of military experience not so long ago in this country and wrought havoc in this country'from IT, 4 Apr. This seems all to convenient dragging forget Boston we're as far as Texas now, showing us how Georgie Boy really does want World peace (even Gerry Adams says so),'just one thing so what are we to do with these protesters? mmmmmmm....'

'Sorted they're coming to Belfast!'

ahem

Sat Apr 05, 2003 20:14

do try and be rational
12 million people are not going to Belfast.
The island of Ireland does not have the logistic capabality to allow for all the protesters and inflitrators to go to Belfast.
You will just have to represent them.

logistic tip.

Sat Apr 05, 2003 20:19

if you want to goto Northern Ireland the easiest way of getting there is crossing the "Border" between the Republic of Ireland and the UK the bit that puts the K in US/K.
Ireland has Railways a total of : 3,314 km
broad gauge: 1,949 km 1.600-m gauge (38 km electrified; 485 km double-tracked)
narrow gauge: 1,365 km 0.914-m gauge (operated by the Irish Peat Board to transport peat to power stations and briqueting plants) (2001)
Highways:
total: 92,500 km
paved: 87,043 km (including 115 km of expressways)
unpaved: 5,457 km (1999 est.)
Waterways:
700 km (limited facilities for commercial traffic) (1998)
Pipelines:
natural gas 7,592 km (transmission 1,158 km; distribution 6,434 km) (2000)
Ports and harbors:
Arklow, Cork, Drogheda, Dublin, Foynes, Galway, Limerick, New Ross, Waterford
Merchant marine:
total: 26 ships (1,000 GRT or over) totaling 110,741 GRT/127,342 DWT
note: includes some foreign-owned ships registered here as a flag of convenience: Germany 2 (2002 est.)
ships by type: bulk 4, cargo 20, container 1, short-sea passenger 1
Airports:
41 (2001)
Airports - with paved runways:
total: 16
over 3,047 m: 1
2,438 to 3,047 m: 1
1,524 to 2,437 m: 4
914 to 1,523 m: 4
under 914 m: 6 (2002)
Airports - with unpaved runways:
total: 20
914 to 1,523 m: 3
under 914 m: 17 (2002)

there you go no logistical capability to get all the protesters to Belfast.
pity.
but that also means there is not a hope in hell of getting really big proper World institutions to do gigs in Belfast either. No IMF no WorldBank nothing like that.
This might just be your best chance.

Grassroots

by Aidan

Sat Apr 05, 2003 20:23

Your first post was removed because it was just a phone number, what part of the news bit in "newswire" is causing this confusion?

Your second post was taken down beacause A) it was little better than the fist, and B) it was already posted here.

If you want to post about the meeting in belfast could you y'know post actual information and details, about who you are and what you are doing, thus creating a post with information to enlighten and inform people, so it would be, news.

Yes this is sarcastic and no I don't care.

aidan is only trying to look after the logistics.

Sat Apr 05, 2003 20:27

he's not really being sarcastic.

you can also get to Northern Ireland from Scotland. scotland is a part of the UK as well.

the scottish don't like Bush nor Blair nor Ahern.
and they are a fiercesome lot who raise their kilts when angered.

Sat Apr 05, 2003 23:02

rational????

lets hope all the Pro War maniacs who love the Queen will be rational!

You are confused Peter

by arthur

Wed Mar 17, 2004 23:03

Once the decision was taken to go to war in Iraq and facilated by declaration from attorney general the world changed .They cant say voilence should not be used to solve disputes anymore .The further decision to deliberately target civilians as in the bombing of resturant in an attempt to kill Sadam demonstrated that civillans who worked there were expendable,this has implications regarding victims here that tends to suggest the so called conflict here has been legitamised.Not much point anybody on the political scene saying we wont sit down in gov with men or parties linked to war anymore .The question we should be adressing is, how ,now that Pandoro box has been opened ,can we have a future .We should be mindful of what the futurologist Ray Kunstell predicted when he stated "the future doesnt need us" we could be coming to a defining moment for human kind soon with the possibility that we may be alreadly to late to make a difference as the mess is alreadly on the move in europe.

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