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Conclusive evidence that Market Massacre was coalition missile

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Sunday March 30, 2003 12:11author by Pearse Stokesauthor email ppstokes at hotmail dot comauthor address Dublin, Ireland Report this post to the editors

Robert Fisk gives us what we need, to prove the case

Robert Fisk reported some serial numbers from missile fragments at the site of the Shu'ale massacre in Baghdad. These numbers are easily proved to be those from coalition munitions. The coalition media has been telling us that the deaths were caused by a failed Iraqi missile.

Robert Fisk revealed that fragments of the missile that killed
upwards of 65 people in the Shu'ale District of Baghdad carried
certain serial numbers. His report is at:
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=392161
The relevant quote is:
"…This is believed to be the serial number. It is followed by a
further code which arms manufacturers usually refer to as the
weapon's "Lot" number. It reads: MFR 96214 09.

The piece of metal bearing the codings was retrieved only minutes
after the
missile exploded on Friday evening, by an old man whose home is only
100 yards from the 6ft crater. Even the Iraqi authorities do not know
that it exists."…

I have searched the net for the number MFR 96214 (for example on
Google), and can prove that this number has been found on cruise
missile fragments elsewhere.
For example:

http://www.balkanarchive.org.yu/kosovo_crisis/destruction/white_book2/
06.html

A bridge had been destroyed in Kosovo – full details at the link
shown.

Other parts of the number given by Robert Fisk include: 30003-704ASB
(the B may be a scratched "H"). A search for parts of this number
sequence provide further confirmation:

"NATO BOMB WITH HAND-WRITTEN MESSAGE HITS VRANJE

VRANJE - A NATO bomb which on Friday fell near the village Ribinca,
near Vranje in southern Serbia, seriously injuring two civilians,
contained a cynical hand-written message by it sender.

A certain Eric N. wrote "Bad times. Isn't it lovely. See you guys.
I'm going home, Eric N., Italy" beside the serial number of the NATO
bomb, which was 30003 70 4 AS 4829 MFP 96214 (AP).

The bomb wounded farmer Slobodan Djordjevic and his sixteen-year-old
daughter, who received major skull fractures and is in critical
condition at the Neurosurgery Clinic of Nis."
(That Document is at: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/16-
04e01.htm)

Therefore, this is conclusive proof that the Shu'ale deaths and
devastation were caused by the US/UK Coalition, and not the alleged
malfunctioning of an Iraqi missile, as still being suggested today
Sunday 30 March 2003 on western media.

This kind of simple method can be used to prove the origin of
munitions used against the people of Iraq – but we need the
clues. I would ask anyone in the area to accumulate even simple
number sequences off bits of metal, circuit boards etc. Photograph
things you think may be irrelevant. In the context of the post-
conflict actions that may be taken against key figures in the US and
UK particularly, this is the kind of evidence that may prove useful.

By way of example, in the Kosovo conflict, a cruise missile was found
unexploded. Clearly painted on a major component was “not to be
used after ..” and a date. Does that mean that cruise missiles
have a ‘use by’ date, after which they become less effective,
perhaps the propellant or something deteriorates? If so, is it cheaper for the US to use them in conflict, and force their replacement that way, than to pay for them to be dismantled and repaired? Sadly, I don’t have a copy of this footage from Kosovo, if someone does, please let me know about it.

I would repeat my request for information on radioactivity levels in
Baghdad, if any is available.

I will circulate this proof to the media here in Ireland, as best I
can, perhaps others could call up their radio stations etc and tell
them to treat information from the coalition sources with the
contempt it deserves.

Pearse

author by Avi H.publication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 12:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is not conclusive evidence, as there is no proof that the fragment was retrieved at that location. It could have been taken from somewhere else.

author by looney tunespublication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 12:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yeah it's not conclusive ... the Iraqis could have stolen it ... or gotten it from the Syrians or Iranians ......

http://www.teshreen.com/daily/images/fr03-21/carem.gif

author by ifrachpublication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 12:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It could have been Kosovo terrorists or some buddies of Slobodan Milosevic.
No way is this conclusive. Anyway Tony Blair has not confired it. And we know that he is a sincere guy. Even Bono says so.

author by serial abuserpublication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 13:05author address author phone Report this post to the editors

How come you're not out shooting the striking commie bastards ?

http://tinyurl.com/8g4i

author by serial abuserpublication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 13:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Good to see that not all Israelis are as one-sided as our friend Avi.

http://tinyurl.com/8g5b

author by serial abuserpublication date Sun Mar 30, 2003 13:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yep, some Israelis actaully understand that "conquest exacts a price". Pity that they can't engage in dialogue with Avi. But he would probably shoot the wimps.

http://tinyurl.com/8g5g

author by conclusivepublication date Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

News reports show Iraqi people carrying the remains of what blew up in the market killing 58 odd civilians, pictures shows the tail fins of what look like a large BOMB! now I am no expert but wouldn't a rocket (whether coalition or Iraqi) have an exhaust at its tail end out of which the rocket which propels it fires? well in the pictures the tail end is sealed and looks very much like a bomb to me, a bomb with stabilising fins is usually dropped from the sky where at the moment only U.S. and U.K. planes fly. Has anyone else noticed this, I saw these pictures on C.N.N. a large group of people protesting, two or three middle aged men carrying the tail section of a grey bomb. I don't particularly believe either side's propaganda but I sometimes believe my eyes... other questions: the pilots dropping these bombs can, I presume, see what they are dropping them on, and if they can't should they be dropping them in the first place? have the pilots itchy trigger fingers like the ones willing to shoot at clearly marked friendly forces? or are they actively targetting civilians in order to break their will to fight in a popular guerilla war ??? one wonders

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