Just walked length of O'Connell St 4 times and saw NO POLICE - is this a record

by james redmond - socialist alternative Wed May 08, 2002 20:15 antrophe at hotmail dot com

Maybe you think Cormys comments are crude and bigoted, but the essential essence of them are right. The police are not their to serve our interests, anyone who joins under that illusion quickly leaves.
The illusion that the police are a socially objective force is a farce, they do not stand above society, if they ahve any function it is to stand between class antagonisms, and i dont mean stand their peacefully like some fluffy cushion, they act as a protective force for the ruling class in this country, and they do that by stamping their authority into the face of anyone who attempts to change this society and go against the dominant interest, the profit motive. They do that by standing on the heads of the working class. They stand between us and the capitalist state.This is'nt the first time that the police in ireland have attacked protestors of any form. From the lockout 1913 to the hunger strike demos of the 1980s, to the burlington and RTS and the anti capitalist movement. Developing from the embyro of the Sinn Fein 'community policing' in the War of Independence, among their first activities was the attacks hand in ahnd with the RIC on the seizure of farm land by the landless of the west. They were founded by a fascist to suppress the left in the aftermath of the civil war and they havent fucking changed...
If your friends were repulsed by events on Monday, then why don't they hand in their Badges and leave the force?

by dudeley dude Wed May 08, 2002 19:44

Your a cunt.

Fuck you, generalising people.

I know some gardai who are nice people. The same people were repulsed by the events on monday.

I am seriously fucked off and I will be there tomorrow night but,this dosnt give anyone the right to be a bigot.

by Cormy Wed May 08, 2002 19:38 whizine at hotmail dot com

The police are cunts. The type of people attracted to join the police and almost uniformly cunts. After being on the police force with such authority and the knowledge that they can put on a uniform and walk down a street telling people what to do with no comeback corrupts even young gardai with the best of intentions. All police are cunts. When I was in second year myself and my friends were continually bullied, pushed around & hit by this toughguy jovk in sixth year...guess who I often see on the beat around Dublin these days? No fucking coincidence.

by Spudmonkey - blah Wed May 08, 2002 15:11 under_their_radar at hotmail dot com

i think it was the same with everybody, when i was at skool it was the macho dicks with aggression problems who went off to join the guards. However i do know one girl who really wnated to join the guards for all the right reasons, but couldn't because her fmaily had too many "dodgy" links in the past. Maybe a few guards go into the force with the belief they can do something but after 2 months in templemore they just become indoctrinated fools, even if they dont beat anyone they turn a blind eye to their colleagues as people get beaten while on the ground with their hands over their heads. The guards are unanswerable thus they are ungovernable, they are fuckin animals.

by John - Regrowth Wed May 08, 2002 15:02 regrowth666 at hotmail dot com

Behind the uniform cops are people too,
Bit of a cliche but it's true.
Damaged, violent angry people
But people nonetheless
If we are serious about wanting to initiate positive change we have to find ways to integrate all this violence and hurt into the process, otherwise it gets more isolated, more alienated and more destructive. How we do this I'm not sure but we have to try. Creativity, imagination and gallons of humour and love

by kilt Wed May 08, 2002 14:55

what would drive someone to be a garda?

do you really think it is because they want to help people, or is it more likely a mixture of insecurity & testosterone????

by s Wed May 08, 2002 14:49

I too went to school with a guy who is now a guard much to the shock of others that went to school with him. He was a knuckle-head jock that was fond of hitting people and throwing them into lockers etc. Thoughtof him with an authority stick makes me shudder

But when you think about it some people expect guards to be emotionally uniform but thats impossible. When confronted by one you have no idea what agressions, fears, hates, phobias, quirks or fetishes that they might have. on the flip side they can be pretty cool when your in trouble yourself.

by steve Wed May 08, 2002 14:36 steve at steveryan dot org

about 3 years ago on o'connel street at about 2 am, 3 scumbags hoped on me and as a result i had to spend the night in hospital. there were no gardai on the street, and when i did inform the gardai about the incident their response was (and i quote), "that's what you get for being on o'connell street on a saturday night."

???

this might be a bit off topic, but a guy i grew up with (he was the biggest scumbag) is now a garda. i wonder how their recruitment process works???