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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 677+60=137
166 deputies in the Dail
166-137=29
Now since only 18 votes were needed to swing the motion, who didn't vote and why?
FF & the PD's are a disgrace.
How can allowing the U.S. to use Shannon not "amount to active participation in the war"?
If they want to argue the "in our national interest case" - though it is nothing short of a barbaric argument, at least it is an argument.
The first argument is nothing short of a blatant lie and an attempt to deceive the Irish people.
Can anyone please find out who voted for and who voted against?
Haughey the younger says that the moral thing to do would be to withdraw the Shannon facilities. But we can't because its not in our national interest. What slime!
Leaders completely contradict themselves all the time. They drop neatly packaged statements right next to other neatly packaged statements, and compliant reporters continually fail to cross-examine the glaring contradictions.
This is a serious problem when these deceiptful 'representatives' are involved/assisting in genocide.
neatly packaged statement#1:
"there is clear legal support for the view that the provision does not amount to active participation in a war"
well, if that is so, it wouldnt really matter if they abstain from any involvement to make sure that it doesnt amount to participation in a war, by erring on the side of caution.
neatly packaged statement#2:
"to withdraw facilities for American forces at Shannon Airport now would be be seen as a hostile act"
Hostile. only if it was a matter of war surely. only if it was a matter of being 'with us or against us' in their pursuit of war.
Did i say war, sorry, go back to neatly packaged statement#1: and repeat 100 times.
Other double bind talk from warmongers:
Iraq will crumble quickly because their army is weak, despite being a major threat to the whole world because they (not so) apparently have weapons of mass destruction
Iraqi refugees are illegal immigrants because it is safe for them to return to Iraq, despite the need to attack Iraq because of its incredibly sadistic dictator
That the parliamentary system in existence is pointless. There is no democracy here. The government is not held responsible to the people. Well maybe in 5 years time or whatever the time period is. BUT that is too late. Issues don't wait five years. We are complicit in the war now. We are giving bases now. Iraqis are being murdered now! Regime change begins at home!!!!