Campaign to Intercept Government Ministers

by notaneejit - notaneegit international Sat Mar 15, 2003 13:13 notaneegit at notaneegit dot com 1 notaneegit lane, notaneegit city, notaneegit land

If you want to do this, then do the work first of finding some relevant addresses and phone numbers. Then get some support, an affinity group. Then do it. But, don't be an eejit.

by d'interceptor Sat Mar 15, 2003 13:57

Interception Bejaysus ..... interception is what they need alright .....

http://www.oireachtas-debates.gov.ie/index.html?http://www.oireachtas-debates.gov.ie/D/0020/D.0020.192707120002.html

by James McKenna Sat Mar 15, 2003 15:01

Those are very constructive comments, you are obviously very much against the Government stance?

So, does anyone have any "relevant" addresses or information on these Government warmongers. When are they attending a function in your area where we could make a protest?

by bible basher Sat Mar 15, 2003 17:51

Oh thats just lovely. Brings back memories of 1992 when the Pro Lifers decided to picket the private homes and harrass the families of pro-choice politicians, frightening their children and disgusting passers-by. Not only did this choice of action not work, but it completely backfired...showing Youth Defence etc. to be aggressive and uncaring.
Picket offices, advice clinics etc. but don't go near private homes. you'll only lose support

by Sparks Sat Mar 15, 2003 21:07

Normally I'd be in agreement, that private homes were sacrosant - but given the behaviour of the government over the past few months, I think interception at their homes is just justified. Hell, I'd call for interdiction, not interception. Remember, we're talking about the government that has declined to answer a simple direct question in the dail, but volunteered the answer to Bush, a foreign leader. They're abusing the system of government, not just the actual people in the Dail. Ministers don't bother showing up for the Dail sessions, time is wasted in the Dail, and large numbers of measures are enacted to reduce the amount of influence that individual citizens can have - no popular votes for mayors or council seats, restricted FOI, local government powers recinded, and so on. Because of the majority they enjoy in the Dail, they aren't bothering to give it more than token lip service.

So if they are willing to direcly influence our private lives, then I say let's upset their private lives in return.

by James McKenna Sat Mar 15, 2003 21:55

While youth defence may have bee "aggressive and uncaring" as you said, none of the beautiful people I have met on the peace marches would qualify for a pro life frontline. Why are you so upset by the idea of protesting n front of Ministers and supportive TD's and MEP's homes?

As for "frightening their children and disgusting passers-by", well have you ever seen the pictures of the hundreds of women, children and even the blessed passer-bys killed when the US deliberately bombed an air raid shelter?

by Donal O'Callaghan - none Sun Mar 16, 2003 02:48 donaloc at iol dot ie Ballincollig Cork 086 8071720

Shouldn't we be pressuring the Irish President to do or say something in defence of the Irish Constitution, which Bertie and Co are so rapidly turning into papier mache? Isn't it her job to propect it?

Can anyone suggest how we might approach this effectively?

by Josef Sun Mar 16, 2003 04:15

Quote: ...killed when the US deliberately bombed an air raid shelter? UnQuote.

Why would they go for a PR disaster like this? When did this happen and where'd the proof it was done with intent.

by James McKenna Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:57

The murder of hundreds of women and children in an air raid shelter in Baghdad was deliberate in that it involved the use of a so called "precisely guided missile". Later they said it was an intelligence error to target it bu this is questionable.

We can expect lots more of this if they get to have their war.

by banished Tue Mar 18, 2003 04:46

Your double agent page managers erase this opinion issue every time get it on here, both as a comment or an piece on the news.

They have done this 5 times. It was wiped out here before also. So this is not a comment on this article - this is a way of getting past the people who repress opinions who run your news here.

If you got a chance to see this expose of the people dictating on you news project here, it is because I have changed all the key words that their computer recognises and only try to get on as a comment now.

I wonder how many more that you never see that your infiltrator editors erase and suppress if any of them dare to criticize the Israelis?

Why not Drop Your Israeli occupation supporters and get the American female activist's slaughter on the front page where it should be.

The u.s. presidential candidate whose initials are P. B'n and a congressman (the words of whose name they have programed into their computer server to erase this post) both have pointed out how the american pro-occupation block and occupation-supporting politicians are a central force in driving the u.s. to war with Iraq.
Perhaps they both are simply against the race of Israel? If so How come Just now when the these sort of politician are Pushing this country on to War with Iraq how come just at this time these two men have been seem now as biased? Is this something to think about....

Pro-israel congress members more than five of them called for the congressman to resign because he said their political block was one of the forces most responsible for speaking to send us into the Iraq war.
That would be ok except that he mentioned the truth about an interest-block of pro-occupation leaders. So is it all right to say so if those are the facts?
The congressman and the presidential candidates both bigots?

Do you think so? So? They could be and so could I. But how about these US scholars of the same extraction then? N'm Ch'sky says the same thing as does Ed Her'....the authors about the book of how the vote is programmed in people". And could Nrm'nfinklestyn,Ph.D historian and sociologist athuntercollege in nyc and Israelshm'r.... u.s. academician and essay writer. go to his essay on Jeffrense 's page , use his last name to get there on the net. Put it in google because all these names and addresses are by computer programmed suppressed and erased on here every time they are written here now.

Do you really believe the charges that these eminent educators of the same race as those that they are cricicizing, are all bigots?

Look at the behavior of those people running this service for you! They are erasing almost everything here critical of israel or critical of the supporters of the occupation.

Wouldn't it be best to drop your own fascist occupation supporting bigots on this newservice; right here?

The bosses that run these web pages leave all the posts every callous praising the occupation bigot on these pages ; but they erase me.

So why is this war happening......

The reason that it is happening is because the occupying country in the middle east doesn't want their biggest opponent left in the mideast and because rumsfeld bush cheney and their partners in oil have got a scheme by which they will definetly benefit from the war. And arab rage and frustration at the states bankrolling of Sharon's people to continue to destroy palestinians was the whole cause the destruction in manhattan. Most of us know that but those people approving of the devastion and larceny of the 'territories' will always deny it.

To confirm this for yourself you can go to the US maine page of this news collective and see the oils of war author, Paul Donahue an editor of an american grass roots party magazine.

How it works as of now is; Saddam has oil exploration contracts and supply agreements with France, Russia, Canada, Germany. Notice that he has none w/ the u.s..what happens is that the Bush's Iraqi opportunist government people have made a bargain with Cheney. All prior committments will be broken and they will give those bargains to Bush's, Cheney's and Rumsfeld's companies. That is , if Bush puts them in power in Saddam's place. If you doubt what I am saying is hard fact then check that page in u.s. maine part of this service.

Saddam whose fighting ability is totally crippled is not the least the cause of this war.

But what about the killing by bulldozer of the american girl?

What about all the attempts to trivialize her killing by people allowed to post here while I am prevented from posting here.

The other areas of this news collective service that are decent such as minniapolis and the seatle pages put this news on the front page. Here it is almost hidden. Why do you think that is?

And they pick the news accounts of it that are the most hypocritical about the slaughter being an accident.

Not like:

A peace protester intentionaly crushed by an army bulldozer in Gaza.
While homes are being destroyed and American resistor is also destroyed.
From the newspaper beginning with G in Britain by a C. McG.....

The IDF bulldozer compressed a female peace activist to death in the Gaza , in what witnesses described as a deliberate slaughter. Rachel Cor...(giving her young age ] suffered and died as she attempted to prevent the military destroying homes in the a refugee camp, one of the most dangerous in the occupied Palestine.
"She was standing on top of a pile of earth," said another activist, Richard Pur..., who was a few feet away :: The driver cannot have failed to see her. As the blade pushed the pile, the earth rose up. Rachel slid down the pile. It looks as if she got her foot caught. The driver didn't slow down; he just ran over her. Then he reversed the bulldozer back over her again. Rach..... was very brave.
Activists said the bulldozer had approached from several metres away and that Ms Corrie, who was wearing a brightly coloured jacket, was waving and they were shouting at the driver to stop but them he ignored.

Other observers said another protester had been slightly injured about half an hour earlier when the same bulldozer knocked him into the wire that was barbed.

Rachel was one of eight foreign volunteers, four from the u.s. and four from Britain with the a world wide protest agency seeking to block house crushings.

I have altered many words here to escape the program on here that automatically washes out anything I put up here. Do you really want these kind of people running this service. You may be next.
Purs... , said that earlier an Israeli tank protecting the bulldozer had attempted to drive protesters away with warning shots and teargas. But there had been no trouble immediately before Ms Corrie was smashed.

At the local hospital, doctors, said she had died from skull and chest smashing. The idf said the death was an accident and the driver couldn't see her. Will you put up with dictators on here who suppress people putting their opinions on here?

The idf said that we are dealing with a group of protesters who are acting very irresponsibly, putting everyone in danger, the Palestinians themselves and our forces through purposely placing themselves in a dangerous place in fron't of bulldozers.

Actually those who protest injustice are dealing with evil thugs who care nothing about decency or truth as long as they can steal the Palestinians country.

Watch , the people suppressing me on here are doing all they can to hide these issue because it supports the theft of palestine.

Speak up against this suppression on here.

The area for homeless palestinians is surrounded by Settler settlements and armyforts. Native civilians say they are frequent victims of random shootings by the military and settlers. Often among the dead are children . A Palestinian human rights worker in that camp, said it was ironic that an American should be killed by a US made bulldozer; America is providing Israel with tanks and bulldozers, and now they killed one of their own women.

I left 7 links to picture of all this on my post but if i put them here , your newsservice's dictators program will erase me. There are a number of covert infiltrators running your site here and only letting you see what they want you to see. If people were being shut off on a page that I was on, I would say very clear things about that.