Two more knives in the back

by Sean Fri Feb 28, 2003 13:31

As we approach the start of a war the softer elements will fall by the wayside. When the war starts the Labour Party, SF, and Greens, PANA and AfrI etc. will be under severe presure to support the war. Afterall the likes of Labour, and SF are supported financially by Big Business donations.

If the UN backs the war, which is likely to happen, we will definatly see the softer elements jump onto the pro-war camp.

HAVE NO ILLUSIONS IN LABOUR/PANA/SF/GREENS!

by Joe Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:08

RTE News at One has repeated this story in more detail including a statement from Sinn Fein. This would be pretty damn funny if it wasn't so serious. Kneecapping joyriders is OK but tearing down a fence is violence. Truly irony is dead!!!

by Joe Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:11

At least in the headlines, after the break they are promising a story under the heading 'Political parties run for cover as mass tresspass is planned at Shannon'.

by pat c Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:12

Have no illusions in the SP or SWP either, they have shown their true mettle by sabotaging the Mar 1 DA.

RBB is facilitating his eventual transfer to Labour.

Given the SPs ambivalence towards British Imperialism they may have difficulties in continuing to actively oppose the war if the Brits get involved in the Bush adventure.

Up North they wont even picket British Army recruting offices. Hardly surprising given their support for a British Army recruiting stall in QUB a few months back.

by Evil Dave Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:47

He said that the march the 1st march was initially called for by the Irish anti-war movement when in fact the call was made by Anarchist groups and it was always a call for direct action, the peacefull march was always only in support of the symbolic tresspass.

by Andrew Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:53

Actually what happened was the GNAW (which is not just anarchist groups) decided to have a direct action on March 1st and approached the IAWM with the suggestion that they should march that day. When we did so we discovered that they had also already decided to call a demonstration for March 1st. This isn't that surprizing, going to Shannon two weeks after the 15th was kind of obvious. So the two were called independently and without knowledge of each others plans, not the first time this happened.

by Killian Forde Fri Feb 28, 2003 14:54

Sinn Fein has not instructed members not to go to Shannon. All dublin cummain, at least, have been encouraged to attend either the demo in Dublin or Shannon. I haven't seen or heard or any statement from Sinn Fein telling members not to go to Shannon tomorrow.

Hopefully tommorow will be well attended by people of all political parties and persuasion.

by Angela McGee Fri Feb 28, 2003 15:00

How has the SWP or SP sabotaged the DA?????
It hasn't even happened yet, can you see into the future?

by Joe Fri Feb 28, 2003 15:19

Oh come on Angela, its common knowledge that over the last months the SWP has been running a 'whispering campaign' in the IAWM designed to innoculate activists against the GNAW. You've been telling people that we are violent and uncontrollable and shouldn't be spoken to. Now it appears that particular chicken has come home to roost as PANA, Labour, Green Party and SF took you at your word.

by Pat C Fri Feb 28, 2003 15:42

They have done so by spreading disinformation about the proposed events. RBB talking down the likely numbers. Dheoch & M. O'brien trying to scare off people by talking about the need for medics.

WHEN HAVE THE SP EVER PROVIDED MEDICS AT A DEMO?

Just look at their comments here over the past week or so.

by Pat C's ex. Sun Mar 02, 2003 15:50

the reason why you are so vitriolic about the SP is because you were dumped by a young female member of the SP? is it true?

by pat c Sun Mar 02, 2003 19:02

can you not come up something new?