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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Friday February 21, 2003 15:09author by Thisonethatone - Hooligan dress code Report this post to the editors

Getting past his goons

If the boys with the Sig Sauers know you are a student, they will not let you in...

The Dempsey road show meetings relating to teachers. is purportedly intended for anyone who wants to go along. I went along, got there early, and was at the front, and asked him two simple questions.

1)Full fees?

2)Why has the Back to Education allowance been cut off for post graduates?

Minister Dempsey is a liar, because he told me that, one, this was not the meeting to discuss this, and two, he did not know the answer to either of those questions.He asked me to leave it until the end, and I could talk to his secretary. I then found out that the NUI Galway student union were outside, only ten of us, but that was alright.

I went out to talk to them, then went back in, then left after half an hour, then one of Dempsey's spooks, would not let me back in then.

I had made the mistake earlier of chatting to friendly with the other cops outside, and that was it.The spook who would not let me back in knew my name, from me yapping too friendly with the other cops.

Dempsey came out, and I managed to tell him that, despite his alleged ignorance of the BTEA cutbacks, his department had actually confirmed it to me. He was all like "I told you to give my secretary you address, and we would write to you...", blah, blah, ballix, and then his bodyguardai, the Ton Ton Macoutes kept, not pushing, but making it difficult for me to get near him to ask him further questions. He yapped then with the student union heads, I took a photo, politley reminding the Macoutes I was not going to include them in the picture.

One of the Macoutes( same guy who knew my name from other cop) took my piece of paper, where I had only written my mobile no (non-reg) and e mail. I began to get nervous, even though I have nought to hide. However, the idea that Special Dicks will run a check on me is creepy. However, I did see the Macoute I gave the bit of paper to hand it straight over to Dempsey's secretary, so I began to get a little less paranoid. The fact that there was a moon out last night, and that I was surrounded by sleazy looking security agents carrying those new sixteen round Sig Sauers made me extremly nervous.

We were politly shown the door,the same spook telling me "Gwan home now and watch yer programme."(Again, I had been yappiing to one Guard and told him I would rather be at home watching the Prime Time special on Dublin's crack heads.)Meanwhile,our more equal than us fellow citizens, the teachers, got to stay for tea and coffee.So much for open government.

So, the trick is, half of ye arrive early, conservativly dressed. try and look like frustrated teachers. Arrive at the meeting half an hour early. Do NOT talk either to his sidekicks in suits,who will be inside the meeting, or the Ton Ton Macoutes(gardai detectives, that is).The suits will tell you not to ask certain questions until the end. I ignored that line of advice.Then they will most likely notify the Macoutes, so their job can be made easier.

Sit in for the whole meeting, and you will be able to chat with him at the end.That is, unless the Macoutes are reading this and are in the process of formulating methods to keep the discontent out.

The other half should do the banner holding and what not. Anyone from Student Unions should get on to the Galway heads. Apparantly, http://www.sin.ie
have a piece realating to our meagre protest last night online now. Good luck with your strategies. Again, remember, no chatting to suits or cops. My mistake, amicable fellow that I am. Learn from that, and work on further methods.Otherwise, with this accountable government of ours, you will be fobbed off.

Good Luck :0)

author by Eamonn Cruddenpublication date Fri Feb 21, 2003 15:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"A group of students from both NUI, Galway and GMIT held a demonstration against fees in the Corrib Great Southern Hotel on Thursday night, where the Minister for Education & Science, Mr Noel Dempsey, was meeting with members of the ASTI teachers' union.


Unsurprisingly, Minister Dempsey had very little news for the group of protestors. When asked about his (now overdue!) report and if students will be "facing another cloak-and-dagger performance from the Minister similar to last summer", Dempsey said that the Department of Education & Science were now "reviewing the situation in much greater detail than was originally planned, hence the delay". He declined to comment on his recent decision to abolish the Back to Education Allowance (BTEA) scheme for postgraduate students.

Minister Dempsey also finally agreed to meet with the Students' Unions of NUI, Galway and GMIT about the fees situation. This meeting will now go ahead on Friday 11th April - the same day as the opening of "some building" (Dempsey's own words!) in GMIT. He suggested that his report on fees may be released before the meeting on 11th April."

author by Schwanzpublication date Fri Feb 21, 2003 15:36author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Under no circumstances should any body talk friendly with a cop.Did they not teach you that in college?

author by Magnetopublication date Fri Feb 21, 2003 15:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Fri Feb 21, 2003 16:14author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors


It's nothing to do with Dempsey. The allowance is administered by the Department of Social and Family Affairs run by Mary Coughlan and they decided to cut it.

author by Fintan Lane - Cork Anti-War Campaignpublication date Fri Feb 21, 2003 22:47author email corkantiwar at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors

For those interested in greeting Noel Dempsey when he arrives in Cork, the Cork Anti-War Campaign will be picketing his meeting at the Rochestown Park Hotel on Tuesday, 25 February. Picket will begin at 6.30pm.

author by El Monko - Richies mapublication date Sat Feb 22, 2003 05:33author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Your ma copper, your ma.

author by thiswanpublication date Tue Feb 25, 2003 14:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Friendly cop?

Yes, I know, I know I should not speak to friendlycops, chastise me no longer.

Mary Coughlan?

It was the Department of Education I heard it from, and, thus, was led to believe it had been Dempsey's call. However, thanks for clarifying that, I will see if I can get in touch with the relevent department.

Good luck the rest of you that will be protesting at the next few stops.

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