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2FM J. Ryan - Garda Press Vs. Ex-Army

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday February 04, 2003 17:50author by S. Aerobics - Reclaim the Runwaysauthor email transmit at ziplip dot com Report this post to the editors

"The army will patrol Shannon tomorrow after Gardai could not guarantee the security of the facility", - Jerry Ryan, 2FM. This morning's interview with a Garda press officer and a retired soldier who "keeps an eye on the army since he left in the early 80's".

Interviewing John Farrelly of the Garda Siochana Press Office, details of Mondays actions against the US war system at Shannon were avoided, "we're not going to discuss or infer anything regarding any issue before the courts at the moment".
Turning attention and dismissing a newspaper report of the possibility of a 'shoot to kill' policy to keep Shannon airport secure, J.Ryan presumed "these troops will continue to be an aid to the civilian authority and will be under your control".
"That is exactly the case", replied the Garda Press Officer.
However, interviewed later in the show, a former Irish soldier strongly disagreed. "No, the Garda Commisioner can request army assistance but the army remains under army control".
Q. And will they work alongside the Gardai ?
A. There will be Gardai there because soldiers don't have the power of arrest.
Q. Say if there's an attack on a plane, people refuse to do what they're doing. Will the army have to turn around to the Gardai and say "What should we do" ?
A. No, the soldiers in my opinion [are] guarding, they're the people on the ground with the weapons. If you put an armed soldier in a position where he's guarding a perimeter fence, why are you arming him ? Why is he carrying his weapon ? Why not give him a stick if you don't want him to discharge his weapon. They're not carrying the weapons just for show...
Q. To shoot to kill or shoot to disable ?
A. People only get shot for disabling in the movies... the rules and training they go through for [e.g. protecting deliveries to banks] is exactly the same as the rules and training for protecting a perimeter fence... they have to prevent destruction... they are allowed by law to use any reasonable force to prevent destruction to property... [for example] somebody breaches the perimeter fence and he's about to wield an axe... against the nose of a US plane. In that particular instance the most reasonable force to use may be to shoot him dead.
It sounds extreme but... in a great many cases a soldier is not meant to think, he's trained to act.

author by Phuq Heddpublication date Tue Feb 04, 2003 18:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

in which murder of an Irish protestor by Irish troops defending an illegally present _foreign_ aircraft can be explained as a "regrettable accident". The Irish Independent is still repeating the false claims that there was an assault on the Garda. See link below. This story is dated TODAY, after there has been a clarification. There is NO BYLINE on the story! What's going on with that? Who's responsible, the editor? Do all his journalists refuse to be associated with this verifiably false story?

Related Link: http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=911207&issue_id=8703
author by psysicpublication date Tue Feb 04, 2003 22:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If they start murdering Irish citizens the people will not stand for it. Irish people put up with corrupt politicans they even expect that, but they will not accept their kids being killed by them.

author by Paulpublication date Wed Feb 05, 2003 14:11author address author phone Report this post to the editors

John Carthy was shot dead by a Garda marksman outside his home at Abbeylara, Co. Longford. John was known to suffer from depression but was not a danger to anyone other than possibly himself. He was carrying an old shotgun. He was killed with a high velocity bullet. There was no attempt to bring him down with minimal force. He was murdered by Gardai.

 
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