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Tuesday January 21, 2003 15:14 by conor - ucd socialist alternative conor at ziplip dot com
thursday jan 23,th m Arts bldg the lawsoc crowd (and expect every aspiring lawyer/ff/general right wing type on campus to be there) are having b ahern over for a debate on nothern ireland with m durkin ,coulpa shinners...etc the cfe will be outside (and inside) the hall for a good blocade/heckle/debate/etc. special branch will be there too-and mabey even garda e198 from insicore,to give the kids a good belting around. basically-anyone who can,please come along.students are not well represented at these lawsoc affairs.generally the twats who obviously like fees and the concept of law and the present economic world order are. anyone got any suggestions for us? anyone come along? everyone-sp-swp-sa-wsm-sf-cpi please please come along.untied front and all that. http://www.ucd.ie/~lawsoc/home.html - they rejected thye notion of sellafield being shut down.total fuckwits
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bertie
bertie the bush kangarooo
repeat endlessly to the old skippy tune that older insurgents may remember from saturday mornings in their early days
This is the just the type of behaviour which turns students off serious protest. Why alienate Society members? Do you have a mania for shouting?
You must be getting your ideas from SY. No wonder the UCD turnout at serious student demos is so disappointing.
'http://www.ucd.ie/~lawsoc/home.html - they rejected thye notion of sellafield being shut down.total fuckwits'
You lost the vote at a debate , so that makes those whose arguments won the day 'fuckwits'?
Run that by me again!
These tactics of disrupting the events of every society which has a FF or PD speaker will not help to build CFE. Its just turning people off.
The visit of Ahern to ucd this week should give students a great chance to make our views on the fees issue known to the Taoiseach.
Protesters in ucd have blockaded and protested at the visits of governemnt ministers this year. Brian Lenihan, Noel Dempsey, Michael McDowell have all visited the college, and at all time students showed them their anger about the proposed re-introduction of fees.
Now that the Taoiseach is coming out, all students, regardless of their political affiliation, should get active and get angry at this man that wishes to cut back in education.
as i said- everyones welcome.from those who want to debate- as ucd global action members did at the sellafield debate*, to the trots - and all that goes in between
there is a need for people representing "the left",that was my point,the reason for this posting.information - to people - activists.
hope all who can,come
*to the behecklement of the crowd- SHOUTING some personal shit, and general anti leftist stuff themselves- alienating us (sob sob).their "debates" would be shite without a bita commotion- theyd proberbally say it themselves
as i said- everyones welcome.from those who want to debate- as ucd global action members did at the sellafield debate*, to the trots - and all that goes in between
there is a need for people representing "the left",that was my point,the reason for this posting.information - to people - activists.
hope all who can,come
*to the behecklement of the crowd- SHOUTING some personal shit, and general anti leftist stuff themselves- alienating us (sob sob).their "debates" would be shite without a bita commotion- theyd proberbally say it themselves
Socialist Alternative are not Trotskyists, nor do they claim to be. They border on anarchism and in reality have no clear politics.
Trotwatch who exactly are you?
Reveal your identity instead of hiding behind the mask of a cover name. Or are you unable to fully defend your own ideas and the ideas of your organisation publicly?
Maybe it was you that played the really tretcherous role in the UCD fees demos?
hs; your given name?
'just this type of childish behaviour' - ?????
What the....?
BERTIE AHERN
Do I need to underline it? For fuck sake.
U expect us not to protest? And this would be...all grown up??
Yeah.
I have a list to the floor of reasons to dislike that man and sitting back doing nothing would be, more grown up than finding a way to express my opinon?
sure
"by TROTWATCH Tue, Jan 21 2003, 2:43pm
This is the just the type of behaviour which turns students off serious protest. Why alienate Society members? Do you have a mania for shouting?
You must be getting your ideas from SY. No wonder the UCD turnout at serious student demos is so disappointing"
What do suggest we do "Trotwatch"? Should there be a silent a silent protest or should we do nothing.
Your attitude to SY is childish. Our members in UCD have been to the front of CFE work working with other groups trying to mobilise students. Perhaps you should get involved and stop petty attacks against dedicated student activists.
Didn't know any of you chappies were bright enough to get into Trinners. Looking forward to meeting you. We should be able to do some joint activities against those beastly provos.
We have a motion coming up condemning Bloody Sunday commemorationa as sectarian. I just know you will second it.
Did you practice that one in the mirror this morning?
No need to be like that old bean. With a good ascendancy name like Shane you should have a lot in common with us.
We are having a Taig hunt around the cricket grounds this afternoon. Why dont you and the rest of your chappies join in?
What a comeback! Calling me a muppet! So original!
Wilde: Whistler, you are a muppet.
Whistler: Dash it all Oscar, I wish I'd said that.
You are disappointing me. I thought you were a fine upstanding fellow. If you dont improve at the repartee then we wont invite you to our soirees.
With your help we can have the Union Jack flying over Trinners again.