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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Friday January 17, 2003 13:06author by Liam Report this post to the editors

Comments by Peter Power TD, Limerick East.

Shannon protesters wrong on Neutrality issue – Peter Power, TD

Protesters descending on Shannon again tomorrow will make further claims about our traditional stance of neutrality which are not true, according to Peter Power, TD.


“It remains clear that despite the claims of the protesters the central element of our neutral stance, the non membership of a military alliance, is intact. We are committed to promoting peace throughout the world and have used our influence in the US, at the UN and at the EU to push for a peaceful solution in the Gulf.”

“It has also been made clear on numerous occasions by the Minister for Foreign Affairs that in the event of military action that the continued use of Shannon by US military personnel and flights would be debated by the Dail.”

“The debate which has taken place in recent weeks has been healthy and I accept that both sides are genuine in their beliefs. But those who are protesting at Shannon should remember that this Government remains committed to trying to bring about a peaceful solution and is continuing its efforts.”

Deputy Power added that when making their alarmist claims the protesters should remember the close links this country has with the US, and the assistance America has provided with our own Peace Process and through investment.

author by Niall O Brolchain - Green Partypublication date Fri Jan 17, 2003 13:35author email niallob at esatclear dot ieauthor address Galwayauthor phone Report this post to the editors

It sounds like the old "we've sold our neutrality to the highest bidder and many peoples jobs depend on it" argument.

Will people working for US multi-nationals be willing to put their jobs on the line for the sake of our Neutrality? Some will (including myself) but I suspect that most won't.

However, we will never know the answer to that question, if the Government continues to act in the cowardly fashion it has thus far.

To Bertie Ahern I would ask the question immortalised by the former Irish Rugby captain in a match against England, "Have you no f*^&ing pride?"

author by Protesterpublication date Fri Jan 17, 2003 14:15author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The last sentence says it all:

"Deputy Power added that when making their alarmist claims the protesters should remember the close links this country
has with the US, and the assistance America has provided with our own Peace Process and through investment"

Deputy Power is saying the protestors are 'alarmist' because they are not licking the US ass and they are getting
muddled up about the war being immoral. Deputy Power finds it immoral not to low under the yoke of the US.

author by greeniepublication date Fri Jan 17, 2003 18:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors


The Bully Cowan was pontificating the other day that we should show solidarity with any European countries that end up in a war! I suppose this includes England when Blair starts a war with Iraq. The minister for defense I cannot remmember the bozo's name let the cat out of the bag as John Gormley said by making ridiculous comments about there really being no such thing as neutrality! These corrupt FF clowns are making Ireland into a military target just to satisfy their short twerm greed as usual.

author by iīve forgotten what i call myself. - the forgotten.publication date Fri Jan 17, 2003 22:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

your TD says:
Deputy Power added that when making their alarmist claims the protesters should remember the close links this country has with the US, and the assistance America has provided with our own Peace Process and through investment.


yes.
8 billion irish pounds in EEC / EC / EU aid.

i know the oil is very expensive.
youīre paying "top whack".
but it isnīt going to get any cheaper.
And you have "de facto" entered a war.
the opposing people all hold one religion and speak one language.
None of you little rascals speak that language.

Let me draw your attention to what is known as
"background noise".

Ireland is in this war with the UK and USA.
and EU.
and NATO.
you know that.
I know that.
Iraq knows that.
Iran knows that.
Libya knows that.
UAE knows that.
Saudi Arabia knows that.
all the islamic states know that.
do you like muslims FF?
yes of course you do.
that is why you listen to background noise isnīt it?

Now you donīt have any serious defence strategy for your part of the island do you?
no you donīt.
oh dear.
you most certainly are paying top whack for the oil arenīt you?
and so are your american friends and investors.
how many barrels of blood are you prepared to pay for the oil?
you might get a clue from listening to background noise.
or if youīre too busy, Iīll give you little clues.
like
They see an escalation of US/UK aggression on Iraq (they have been bombing the place for years) as an attack on global Islam.
oh dear.
They certainly get paid top whack for the oil, and you know as well I do that they arenīt stupid, and that they love weapons.
Very big countries.
Let the UN work.

Think about your little country.
the bit you "rule".
Very hard to find weapons there eh?
and sure didnīt your great
great
great
great
great
grandmother
not keep a pike in the thatch
after ī98.

Was that the last time you listened to the French?
maybe.
I do try to let you know about the background noise.
I sometimes provide some of it, which you probably find annoying.
God you might think that gobshite really gets in the way of honest intelligence work.
Because that really is the speciality of Ireland isnīt it.
I mean you know everything donīt you?
get real.
Stop the escalation.

Saddam isnīt going away.
and nor is the threat.
but Bush just might.
wouldnīt that be great for the Irish american investment community.
And donīt pretend you havenīt thought it, because one of you said it on Sunday over a game of golf.

Great game golf.
I think itīs a waste of land myself, but then again I just think about food.

 
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