'Neutrality Is Our Best Offering' (photo)

by Ant Sun Jan 05, 2003 18:40

Can also be seen on the hoarding on Canal Road near the Ranelagh bridge.

by Irish American Sun Jan 05, 2003 21:34

Last night I was watching a TV program on the Battle of Britain. As Churchill said, "Never in the course of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few."

In contrast, the Irish state did nothing to defeat the Nazis. At a minimum, thousands of lives could have been saved in the North Atlantic through the use of Irish naval bases and airfields in the Battle of the Atlantic, and millions of tons of shipping and materiel.

Orwell wrote that those who were pacifist or neutral in WWII were "objectively pro-fascist."

Notwithstanding that fact, Ireland still received $147,500,000 in Marshall plan aid at the end of WWII. From the United States.

Then, when NATO was formed, Ireland did not join us to confront Stalin, who had rolled over half of Europe and was threatening the other half.

It remained "neutral." So again, it gets none of the credit for the freedom of the Czech Republic, Poland, even Russia, et al.

So now we're in this confrontation with religious fanatics, and the Brits are on our side, but some among you wish to remain "objectively pro-al-Qaeda (or pro-Saddam)."

As I've said before, we can manage without you, as we have in the past.

Here's the formula for Irish Neutrality:

historical resentment against Britain + powerlessness + moral blindness + smugness

by Paul S Sun Jan 05, 2003 21:48

I completely agree. But you have chosen the one site where your unlikely to get anything but abuse.

Neutrality is an ass
Fuck the revolution.

by Irish Un-American Sun Jan 05, 2003 22:08

Ah yes, why don't you quote the great man Churchill, cheerleader for the vile human rights abuses inflicted on Boer women and children by the British Empire. The man who crushed the 1926 General Strike, the man that presided over the fire-bombing of Dresden, who refused to help the nascent Spanish Republic against the fascists. Your analogy is more apt than you understand. Stop calling yourself "Irish American", you're a war-mongering anti-democratic, anti-freedom fool. This is not World War 2 where the NAZIs (having been helped to power by Capitalists -- especially American ones) threatened to turn on the other Capitalist governments and forced a deeply anti-Semitic and reactionary American political elite into conflict. This is a war in which the US and its British allies are busy illegally and immorally bombing an already destroyed country in which close to 600,000 children have been killed. A country whose dictator the US financed and supported with illegal chemical weapons.

Get down on your knees and pray "Irish American" because if there's any hell your soul is going there for supporting this massacre.

U.S.A. Out Of The World NOW!

by Irish American Mon Jan 06, 2003 02:04

First, thank you Paul.

I know that the majority of opinion in Ireland is with the U.S.

I just want to post my view here, so that readers can read something in opposition. Plus, it delights me to elicit an angry reaction from the likes of "Irish un-American."

Second, "un-American," a recurring theme in your posts is the imperfection of individuals and countries - a valid point. In the real world, however, goodness is rarely manifested as an absolute value in an individual or a country.

The stains on Churchill's record are acknowleged. His leadership in confronting the worst evil ever to exist on earth, the Nazi dictatorship, must also be acknowleged.

A question for you: Why were Afghans celebrating in the streets when the US rolled into Kabul?

A prediction: RTE and the BBC will soon be carrying similar images from the streets of Baghdad.

by anti hypocrite - Lets inspect the usa Mon Jan 06, 2003 06:29

Its amusing to see the US tell others to get rid of their weapons when they have the most weapons of any country.

I am joining the delegation from Canada who are going to be going into the US to inspect and catelogue their weapons.

US arrogance and hypocracy is getting intolerable.

http://www.rootingoutevil.org

by Irish Un-American - House Committee for Investigation of Un-Irish Americans Mon Jan 06, 2003 21:34

To be stupid once could be called an accident, but twice must mean that you are "Irish American".

You ask "Why were the Afghans out celebrating on the streets?":
1. CNN isn't going to show any coverage of hostile Afghans.
2. Robert Fisk was nearly beaten to death by men that asked "Is that George Bush?"
3. The monsters of the Northern Alliance were delighted to be put back into power by their US allies.

The theme of my posts is not a call for perfection, it's a call for human-rights, democracy and freedom. If you don't like it then why don't yez feck off to China or the USA or one of the other semi-fascist states.