'Security' forces arrest protestors for 'offensive remarks'

by € Fri Dec 13, 2002 17:10

statement from the disobedienti in Italian.
http://www.sherwood.it/portal//article.php?sid=4056
a reader has suggested before using babelfish/altavista.com for translation services online.

by psiphi - listed. Fri Dec 13, 2002 17:27

week by week day by day
more people go away.

this is a cross post comment but is relevant here as well.

another thought who invented "anti-capitalist".

I remember the Daily TElegraph using it after RTS June 18. 1999
Before that the largest ever RTS was 1997 (my memory is thrashed could have been 98) when the liverpool strikers met up with everyone in Trafalgar sq. but then we weren´t called anti-capitalists.
The reason why is this year The Economist mag, referred to "a particular type of anti-capitalism" as being responsible for the Soviet Union.
I shuddered when i read that, in the USA anarchists are "gangmembers", in Europe they are on "no-entry" lists or "handle with care" lists, we have seen that in Denmark.
Yet the authorities also seem intent on giving organisational structure to their opponents.
those arrested in Denmark are "spokespersons" not leaders. Anarchist groupings do not have leaders.
But we do have spokespersons, the folk who go say things to ther radio and TV and troll for the facts and intellectual back-up.
Andrew is a spokesperson for WSM but not a leader.
I´ve been a spokesperson for a whole load of various squatters and protesters but god forbid i be a leader, now our comrades are being described in Europresses as "leaders".
And we are being described as "anti-capitalists", I smell a trap in this.
please let us not be trapped.
Release the spokespeople of gli dissobedienti.
but remember that there are more disobedienti out there who can speak on behalf of their movement.
The disobedienti are like the wombles and yomango high profile attention attracting groupings becuase of their wit and fine fine tactic, so therefore targets for the repression heads, but hey they gave us a martyr, and I remember at the time thinking very soberly (it was not a long period after the Swedish police had opened fire at the REclaim the City gig) that Carlo was a martyr we did not need in any sense.
I mean no disrepect to Carlo, nor to the disobedienti, but in comment to the news of Sisifis´arrest in Greece (next year´s Sup€r$tate venue is THessalonika) the net is out for activists both dirty and clean throughout Europe.

I rather feel that they will choose to scratch off the names on their list carefully.
but give it time.... we are all on that list.

So talk about repression.
don´t email politicians coz that doesn´t work.
talk about repression.
in open places, on radio, on TV, in papers, in churches.
because Neimeyer put it very well.
there will be no-one left to speak out.

related link: www.sherwood.it/portal//article.php?sid=4056

by € Fri Dec 13, 2002 20:42

last night Spanish TV showed a pretty run of the mill crime reconstruction series.
This episode focussed on an incident in 1995 when a gang of italian bank robbers shot two women police officers.
The leader of that gang is Claudio Lavazza.

Today El Pais a national daily in Spain reported that it´s Barcelonan ofice had been sent a package containing 50 grammes of explosive and a book of poetry by Giuseppe Giusti and a note signed by a group
"célula contra el Capital las Cárceles sus Carceleros uy sus Celdas"
this group is known as CCCCC
The Spanish minsiter of the Interior ángel Acebes explained in Congress that this is an anarchist group in Italy.
By devilish coincidence the alledged "leader" of this group is Claudio Lavazza.
yes the coffee brand name man who was shown to be a most horrible and unfeeling murdered last night on state TV is today accused of authorising from his high security cell a letter bombing attempt.

Questions are being asked.
and these are two.
Q. how does anyone in "post 11/9" western civiliastion post 50grammes of explosive from Milan to Barcelona?
Q. if you can´t get 50 grammes of hashish from Milan to Barcelona through two main postal sorting offices with their top range spectograph x-ray machines how do you get enough explosive to kill someone through?

and how do criminals indentified last night as being extremely daNGEROUS on TV get associated in Italian media today with anarchists and anti-globlalists?

I may be naive.

but I see lies everyday.
lies that are so ridiculous that they beg to be pointed out.
Are the emperors now so naked that they must protect themselves with such tissues of manipulation and distracting propaganda?

or are the figures of investment in postal and airport security falsified?

by bright flame Fri Dec 13, 2002 23:22

Well done the Danes keep using bad languague on those EU shitheads and burning their horrible blue rag with all the stupid stars on it.