Green goddess Squaddie arrested in Belfast for arson

by Doubting Thomas Wed Dec 04, 2002 00:47

Provides proof I demand this post be removed within twelve hours of being posted

by Daithi Wed Dec 04, 2002 01:17

You must provide some kind of authentication for this story. You cannot use Indymedia for spreading wild rumours; if this is true it is most important, if it is not you are discrediting this newswire.

by Ray Wed Dec 04, 2002 10:20

That gives the poster another 2 hours to tell us all where he got this information and why it isn't plastered all over the front pages of the papers...

by C. Wed Dec 04, 2002 10:24

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/unions/story/0,12189,852372,00.html

(although we were first on google with it).

Can't see any backup on the secret memo - anybody?

by C. Wed Dec 04, 2002 10:56

Secret memo is in the daily mirror

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12415329&method=full&siteid=50143

by pat c Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:04

had been required to supply proof within 12 hours then liam lawlor would still be in the dail & ray burke would be in the cabinet.

by . - . Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:07

I dont know if the above story is true or not. Who cares. Most of the crap that has been broadcast about the Firefighters in the mainsteam media has been lies. Remember "Fire Union Chiefs are Saddam Stooges"?

by Joe Sheehan Wed Dec 04, 2002 12:24

OK according to The Belfast Telegraph the were two soldiers arrested at the Travellodge, but the army has stated that they did not serve on any Green Goddess crews during the strike

by Daithi Wed Dec 04, 2002 13:05

Re the Flood tribunal / stories not coming out because of needing proof - it would not have been hard to provide the links for at least some context - without them, the article really seems like it comes from nowhere - it doesn't take much to make up a story but like C. said Indymedia's now reporting that a "green goddess squaddie" set a hotel on fire.

The author may just be lying and ranting as usual, but I'm prepared to give the benefit of the doubt and rely on the links and comments to discredit him/her.

Writing articles that seem to come out of nowhere deliberately discredit Indymedia.

by Bill Kelly Wed Dec 04, 2002 13:25

Since when did you need proof to publish on this website?? Most of the stuff I read is unproven rumour. Somebody will get badly stung some day.

by cleo mcwilliams Wed Dec 04, 2002 13:56

The secret government internal memo was leaked to the MIRROR, see previous saturday's mirror for details. The article stated that the Government was fuming and jealous at the level of public support given to the fire fighters, therefore could no longer allow Firefighters and the FBU to be seen as heros, through their leaving their picket lines to attend emergencies, car accidents and chemical factory fires. What better way to break public support, then by recommending police arrest firefighters who leave their picket lines to attend emergencies. The government is paranoid and on the run, fearing that the FBU strike may actually bring down the government, which is not the aim of the FBU strike, the aim of the FBU strike is to get FAIR PAY, for professional highly trained skilled expert workers such as heroic FIREMEN. The strike was also against planned modernisation, which will cost more money and also lead to JOBLOSSES and a reduced fire service operating on skeleton cover, which cannot be done, as shown by the ineffectiveness of the Green goddesses over the strike period and the resultant loss of public lives. Given the so called 'heightened terrorist threat' to scale down emergency services seems negligent and also insane, unless of course the government knows there is no terrorist threat. Skilled Firefighters trained to a high level left their picket lines, to aid struggling Green Goddesses unable, untrained and unskilled in tackling chemical factory fires and car crashes. As seen on UTV, the trickling green goddesses fire hoses lacked the power to put out a small house fire let alone a massive factory fire. Army personnel were also grossly untrained in the highly technical and complicated skill of freeing members of the public trapped in the twisted metal wreckage of car crashes.

by nesta nugent Wed Dec 04, 2002 15:31

Not wild rumours, it is well known within the brit military establishment, that Belfast and N.I are testing/training grounds for brit military strategies. What ever happens in the UK, was initially tested in N.I. Will this be military stragtegy used against the firefighters. It is possible that squaddies were given the instruction to set fires and carry out arson attacks. Certainly extreme right wing LVF members carried out arson attacks on the homes of striking fire fighters in Scotland. Sometimes the horrific truth, like the existence of nazi death camps, is too terrible to acknowledge, but knowlege is power.

by iosaf = o as if = i psi phi 23 Thu Dec 05, 2002 13:45

are ye relying on "leaked tabloid memos" to counter the disinfo campaigns?
wow.
:-O
i hope you´re shaking buckets for the firemen.
and maybe helping communities to start their own emergency response teams.
You don´t need to be trained nor tooled to put out a fire or save a cat.

by pat c Thu Dec 05, 2002 14:12

iosaf

dealing with cats is a specialised job, nay, its a vocation. try "rescuing" a cat from a tree when its enjoying the wonderful game.