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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Thursday November 21, 2002 14:00author by No more killing Report this post to the editors

11 people murdered, 49 injured by Hamas terrorist scum.

Suicide bomber kills 11 in Jerusalem A Palestinian has killed 11 people and injured at least 49 after he blew himself up on a crowded bus in Jerusalem in the first suicide bombing in Israel since the start of a general election campaign. Thursday's explosion ripped through a bus packed with commuters and school children during the morning rush hour. Witnesses said they had heard children who had been on their way to school screaming "Mamma, Mamma" from the wreckage.

Suicide bomber kills 11 in Jerusalem

A Palestinian has killed 11 people and injured at least 49 after he blew himself up on a crowded bus in Jerusalem in the first suicide bombing in Israel since the start of a general election campaign.


Thursday's explosion ripped through a bus packed with commuters and school children during the morning rush hour. Witnesses said they had heard children who had been on their way to school screaming "Mamma, Mamma" from the wreckage.


The bombing, the first in Jerusalem since June, provided further evidence that Palestinian militants were determined to make their presence felt in the run-up to Israel's January 28 ballot, and raised the spectre of harsh military retaliation.


"Suddenly there was a huge explosion, something fell on my head and I fell to the floor," said Yitzhak Cohen, a middle-aged passenger on the bus. "Around me there were bodies everywhere, some of them lying one on top of the other."


A witness identified as Tomer who was driving past the bus when it exploded told Israel radio: "I saw people draped out of windows. Two or three children were screaming inside the bus and then they climbed out."


Passers-by raced to help the victims, many of them burned, bloodied and sobbing. Residents of the Kiryat Menahem neighbourhood where the bombing occurred rushed from their houses desperate to learn the fate of their children.


Books spilled out of a black school bag collected by rescue workers and a piece of burned notebook paper fluttered to the ground. The charred torso of one of the victims hung out of a bus window.


CONDEMNATION FROM BUSH AND BLAIR


Meeting on the sidelines of a NATO summit in Prague, U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair condemned the bombing.


"It is clear that those who want to use terror to stop any process for peace are still active. In order to achieve peace all countries in the region must take responsibility, do their best to fight off terror," Bush told reporters.


The latest violence, including Israeli military raids, threatened to undermine U.S. efforts to achieve calm in the region while it seeks Arab support for a possible war on Iraq.


Police said the bomber -- identified by police as man in his 20s from Bethlehem -- was sitting at the front of Bus Number 20 and detonated his explosives as it approached a bus stop.


The bomber killed himself and 11 others, including a 14-year-old girl. Hospital officials said at least half the 49 wounded were under the age of 18.


The bombing was the first in Israel since Prime Minister Ariel Sharon called a snap election after his broad coalition government collapsed earlier this month, setting the stage for voters to make a clear choice between hawks and doves.


Opinion polls show Sharon's Likud party, boosted by the Israeli public's turn to the right amid a surge of bombings during a two-year-old Palestinian uprising for independence, widely favoured to defeat the centre-left Labour Party.


In deciding his response, Sharon faces the added complication of a Likud vote next week to decide whether he or his more hawkish challenger, former premier Benjamin Netanyahu, will lead the party in the election. Polls have tipped Sharon as the almost certain winner.


Sharon responded to bombings in Jerusalem last summer by sending troops to reoccupy much of the West Bank.


There was no immediate claim of responsibility for Thursday's attack, but Israel blamed it on the Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority for failing to rein in militants who have killed scores of Israelis in such attacks during their revolt.


The Palestinian Authority condemned the bombing but said Sharon was responsible for continued violence because of Israel's military crackdown on Palestinian areas.


Ismael Abu Shanab, a senior official in Gaza for the militant Islamic group Hamas, said Israel was "paying the price" for its occupation and killing of Palestinian civilians.


ELECTION CAMPAIGN TARGETED


Militants have struck during previous election campaigns and have made clear they will do so again despite the view such assaults bolster support for Sharon and hurt his dovish Labour Party challenger Amram Mitzner, who has vowed to reopen peace talks.


Hamas and Islamic Jihad, both dedicated to Israel's destruction, say they see no difference between Israel's parties and will not let up on their bombing campaigns until Israel ends its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.


Earlier on Thursday, Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles backed by helicopter gunships rumbled into the southern Gaza Strip and blew up the home of a senior Palestinian militant before withdrawing. Hospital officials said three Palestinians were hurt in the area.


Israel launched the raid near the town of Khan Younis after its housing minister told Washington that work on a Middle East peace plan should wait until after January's election, further dimming hopes for ending two years of violence.


At least 1,674 Palestinians and 640 Israelis have been killed since the uprising erupted in September 2000.

author by Look deeperpublication date Thu Nov 21, 2002 14:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I would be more impressed if you had posted yesterday after the IDF scum killed many Palestinian civilians.

What do you expect?

Israel has driven Palestinians from their homes and won't let them return. It has done this for more than fifty years armed by the West and created more than a million refugees.

Palestinians have been made desperate by Israeli ethnic cleansing, murder and oppression. Desperate people can be driven to desperate deeds. In this case a small number have flung a small piece of Israeli violence back at them. Of course innocent people are the victims too.

You would be better off condemning the Israelis for denying the Palestinians equal rights in their own lands and refusing them the right to return to the homes they were driven from.

The Israeli racist istate is the source of the violence.

author by Philpublication date Thu Nov 21, 2002 15:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

More moral bankruptcy, the usual from indymedia. We can critise Israel without condoning the murder of the innocent.

author by Despublication date Thu Nov 21, 2002 19:25author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The deaths of young children and school students can never be justified, but the Zionist Racists given their record of war crimes do not have the moral authority to lecture anyone.

author by Aine.publication date Fri Nov 22, 2002 02:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Yet again we are subject to an attempt to demonise the Palestinian people and their resistance to Israel's brutal murderous regime.

Look to the acts of Israeli violence carried out look to Tuesday night 20th November when seven Palestinian innocents where murdered in Tulkarem and Gaza Strip. Did we see or hear about that in any mainstream media? NO of course not - because that would actually result in the possible criticism of Israel.

The issue to remain focused on when one sees and hears of Suicide bomb attacks in Israel, is that these people are at desperation point - and their resistance is shown ultimately by the sacrafice of their lives.

There where no suicide bombing incidents previous to an establishment of a racist state. The cause of suicide bombings is the occupation of Palestine by Israel and the continued encroachment on more and more land via the construction and expansion of settlement villages all over the occupied territories.

The continued and internationally funded terror campaign will obviously result in resistance as it has always done.

If someone pushes you down as far as you can possibly go - are you going to lay there to let them continually walk over you?

Long Live Palestinian resistance.

author by Hamas = Sickpublication date Fri Nov 22, 2002 13:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Look to the acts of Israeli violence carried out look to Tuesday night 20th November when seven Palestinian innocents where murdered in Tulkarem and Gaza Strip. Did we see or hear about that in any mainstream media? NO of course not - because that would actually result in the possible criticism of Israel. "

Not true. The murder of Palestinian innocents receives as much, if not more coverage in mainstream media than the murder of Palestinian innocents. They are BOTH equally wrong and revolting.

Incidentally, this was a bus filled with school-children and Isreali workers. To excuse this as an act of "Palestinian resistance" shows you to be a sick, morally reprehensible person. I can only assume you were similarly supportive of the Omagh bomb, the Enniskillen bomb, the Shankill bomb and the Dublin & Monaghan bombings.

These are real people that are being murdered - not excuses to promote your "Long Live Palestinian resistance" balderdash.

author by Answerpublication date Fri Nov 22, 2002 17:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

But if the Israelis would allow all the Palestinains to return to their homes, compensate them for the years of exile and oppression and allow a single state where all had equal rihgts, the problem would be solved would it not?
By refusing the rights of Palestinains to their homeland, by their racism, Israel has created a disgusting war. It kills 3 times more Palestinains than Palestinians kill Israelis. It's up to the aggressors to stop.

author by Despublication date Sat Nov 23, 2002 01:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As a supporter of the Zionist Racists, your "name" is appropriate especially given the Zionist role in the build up of Hamas as a source of opposition to the secular PLO. Your suggestion that coverage of the conflict by the establishment media is balanced is absurd. One example would be the use of the term "gunmen" to describe the Palestinian resistance.

author by HAMAS=SCUMpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2002 01:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hamas expoded a bomb on a bus packed with school-children and ordinary civilians. 11 dead. 49 injured. Injured - this means limbs blown off, eye blown out. There were kids on that bus. Do not forget this.

You people that defend and make excuses for Hamas are sick and disgusting.

author by Hmmmpublication date Mon Nov 25, 2002 01:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Where did I say I was a supporter of "Zionist Racists"? Did I ever say I supported IDF murders? No, I didn't think so.

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