Pigs on trial!!!

by Aidan Sat Nov 09, 2002 19:04

I am the one who suggested changing the articles title.

The article disturbed me and it was an important story, but the words "Wholesale abuse" are just wrong.

It's the style of journalism which gave us the "posh kidnapping" story last week. The title makes a claim which when you examine the story isn't true.

I think that kind of exaggeration makes nice headlines but bad journalism. It's a single case. If an intelligent unbiased person with no preconcieved opinion on the story, read that headline and the article, he/she would rightly see the title as misleading, and might then be suspicious of the other facts in the article. Thus making the whole story worthless.

On the other hand if they read the headline as "PSNI intimidate 13yo into working as informer", and then went on to read the piece, they should rightly be upset and angry.

I don't think the story should be dismissed I think it should be paid attention to, and making wild and false accusations in a headline, that aren't supported in the article makes that easier.

Which would be a shame.

by Aidan Sat Nov 09, 2002 18:21

Your point being.

The title was an exaggeration. It wasn't wholesale abuse. You can't claim that one example is proof of wholesale abuse.

Accusing Indymedia of bias because of this one example is idiotic.

by Tamerlane Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:24

Now how many exagerated titles have appeared here and how many have you censored?

by Aidan Fri Nov 08, 2002 02:12

So you've no actual facts to back up with slander do you?

If you object to Indymedia editorial policy then join in get involved and play a part.

We're a open collective. You can be a member of the collective. Play a part make decisuons offer objections and opinions.

Unless you'd rather fling about unsubstanitated accusations.

by Tamerlane Thu Nov 07, 2002 18:36

Now how many exagerated titles have appeared here and how many have you censored?

by Aidan Thu Nov 07, 2002 17:24

The title of the post said "Wholesale abuse" thats an exggeration if not a down right lie.

Which makes it factually inaccurate. See editorial guidelines.

Its an appalling story and in fact the exaggeration in the title weakens it. It doesn't need that kind of tabloid hyperbole to shock.

by Tamerlane Thu Nov 07, 2002 16:27

IMC seem to have opinions when its stories about PSNI recruiting kids as informers.

Not that I would ever imply you are anything other than strictly impartial.

by iosaf Thu Nov 07, 2002 15:39

i couldn´t spell shneews either still can´t
and I´m spotting loads of spèlling errörs everywhere, sure tis all the acronyms, very confusing the acrnoyms.
Indited Guards. wow. eh?
then i suppose we´d have indentured Guards as well?

by Whats indited@ Thu Nov 07, 2002 00:39 maigh_nuad at yahoo dot com

Whats indited?, is that a new type of Guard?

by iosaf - reclaim the streets! Wed Nov 06, 2002 16:20 ispiphi23 at email dot com barcelona

The behaviour of the Gardaí on the bank holiday of May 2002 was inexcusable. The internal investigation has drawn many conclusions, seven Gardaí facing charges is not the only issue.
We in the wider commnuity want to know police won´t be beating people up again. We want to know what conclusions have been reached concerning police invovlment in future popular celebration of anti-car, anti-capitalist street parties.
We would like a big apology with sugar on top.
We would like to see that wouldn´t we.
Just so we could say. No.
We don´t want your apology and we don´t need your policing.

by Daithi - -1 of IMC Ireland- Wed Nov 06, 2002 14:07

IMC doesn't think ANYTHING of it. We don't write the newswire stories.

by Angrier Activist Wed Nov 06, 2002 14:02

My opposition to the State is good; I should not be beaten up by the cops.

Your opposition to the State; I dont like. So you should be beaten up by the cops.

They are just a bunch of fakepacifists and liberals who will end up in FG, PDs, FF or the right wing of LP.

by Tamerlane Wed Nov 06, 2002 12:24

How thick can you get. On the Costello thread you had people supporting the state harassment of the IRSP. One moron even believed the cops should have the right to beat up republicans. Just because he doesn't like republicans.

I wonder what IMC think of this? Is it just RTS who should be immune from state violence?

Do they believe Gardai shopuld be allowed to baton Republicans off the streets?

by IMC Dalek Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:15

He thinks enemies of the state should be beaten up by the cops while he watchs from behiund a two way mirror.