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category national | miscellaneous | news report author Friday October 18, 2002 14:40author by The Struggle site Report this post to the editors

The counting is over, SIPTU has a new General Secretary. Joe O'Flynn (the current regional secretary for the south west) has been voted into the post. He succeeds John Mc Donnell who is retiring. Article continies at http://struggle.ws/wsm/news/2002/SIPTUoct.html

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author by Puzzeled Protesterpublication date Fri Oct 18, 2002 16:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Why are you supporting Des in the elections? if elected would he not become a dreaded 'leader' that acts without a specific mandate?

Is that not hypocrisy from Anarchists? Why not support Dáil candidates then?

author by Happy Jackpublication date Fri Oct 18, 2002 19:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Why are you supporting Des in the elections? if elected would he not become a dreaded 'leader' that acts without a specific mandate?"

Don't worry, their "support" won't make any difference!

author by Puzzled Retorterpublication date Sat Oct 19, 2002 01:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Perhaps the WSM support Des because he's going to introduce reforms to increase democracy within the Union?

"Des had stood in the election to raise the issues of increasing democracy in the union"

Now, if Joe Higgins were to stand on a platform of committing to abolish the Dail, then he might get some support!

author by OK - SPpublication date Sat Oct 19, 2002 02:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The Socialist Party is a revolutionary party and we stand for the abolition of the bourgeois parliament. All SP candidates (including Joe Higgins) stand on that platform.

author by bulshitterpublication date Sun Oct 20, 2002 16:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

ok said that 'we stand for the abolition of the bourgeois parliament'

Well lets hope you wasters do a better job than during Nice, where the sp had as little a contribution as the other 'revolutionaries' of the irsp and the swp. I exclude Joe Higgins totally from the above comments.

author by OK - SPpublication date Sun Oct 20, 2002 17:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The attacks on the SP are politically motivated and are not a genuine criticism of the work the SP did not Nice.

We did poster, we did leaflet and canvass. We played the key role in initiating the Alliance Against Nice. The AAN brought together many left wing activists and distributed thousands of leaflets.

I make no apologies that the SP don't take money from big business and that members are involved in more issues and campaigns than members of other left groups. We will not accept corporate donations, we will not ditch other campaigns for opportunistic reasons.

To attack the SP and then say you're not attacking Joe Higgins is stupid. Joe is a member of our party.

author by Andrewpublication date Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

'Puzzeled Protester' I would have thought it obvious that the unions and the Dail are two rather different bodies (to put it mildly). However as you ask, apart from the obvious difference ...

TD's are NOT subject to mandate or recall, union officals are mandated by union congress and there is at least the possability of them being forced to resign by congress.

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author by lazypublication date Tue Oct 22, 2002 20:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Joe worked hard on Nice, Most of the SP members did not. This is a statement of fact and not necessarily an attack. It is the same with the SWP who did even less. The LAN 'took' no money either and yet did more work than the SP and SWP put together and they have fewer members. You cannot explain this just by talking about 'attacks' on the SP.

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