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A lesson to Ireland?

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Monday September 02, 2002 13:36author by Emily McCarthy Report this post to the editors

Earth Liberation Front shows us how to do it?

Perhaps Ireland needs to up the stakes.... ELF Torches United States Forest Service Northeast Research Station http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=19594&group=webcast

author by solas eiripublication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 18:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

ELF's burining of a lab in the US achieves only more of the same. it creates more
violence. it plays into the hands of those who seek to justify the expansion of powers
of police forces and pre-emptive attacks as the Israeli army does.

author by Raypublication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 14:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Okay, you and the original poster are different people.
While the original post does include question marks about adopting those tactics, I think it fairly clearly implies support for the ELF's actions. And before people even think about imitating those actions here, they should find out what was achieved.

author by cd3publication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 14:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I am not going to get deep into this. But I never argued that they showed us how to do it.

Before you engage in yet another rant - please check the posting again (which you seem to do 24/7) and notice that there are question marks - raising this sort of action as a possibility, not a suggestion.

author by cd3publication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 14:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I am not going to get deep into this. But I never argued that they showed us how to do it.

Before you engage in yet another rant - please check the posting again (which you seem to do 24/7) and notice that there are question marks - raising this sort of action as a possibility, not a suggestion.

author by Raypublication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 14:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I understand that those are the Earth First guidelines.
What I want to know is what _this action_ was supposed to achieve, and what the objections were to _this_ research station.

I've managed to open that link, and all it says about this action is
"The laboratory was set ablaze during the early morning hours, causing over $700,000 damage, and destroying part of 70 years worth of research.
This lesson in "prescribed fire" was a natural, necessary response to the threats posed to life in the Allegheny Forest by proposed timber
sales, oil drilling, and greed driven manipulation of Nature. "

What did the research station have to do with the proposed timber sales and oil drilling, and how did burning down the station stop those things from going ahead?
I don't think burning down the building is necessarily bad - if it prevents worse things from happening then it may have been the right thing to do. But I don't think burning down a building is automatically good either. Does it actually achieve anything or not?

Before arguing that the ELF 'shows us how to do it', we should know what the action achieved, and at what cost.

author by cd3publication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 14:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

To inflict economic damage on those profitting from the destruction and exploitation of the natural environment.

To reveal and educate the public on the atrocities committed against the earth and all species that populate it.

To take all necessary precautions against harming any animal, human and non-human. http://www.earthliberationfront.com/about/

Related Link: http://www.earthliberationfront.com/about/
author by Raypublication date Mon Sep 02, 2002 13:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

So maybe you can tell me. What was this action intended to achieve? What was the objection to the research station?

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