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SWP leaflet on Nice not bad but does not mention issues of concern to young people such as napster

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Saturday August 31, 2002 01:00author by Napster is dead long live Napster Report this post to the editors

SWP leaflet on Nice is not bad but does not mention issues of concern to young people such as napster

I read the SWP factsheet on the Nice referendum from a link on this newswire and was pleasently suprised to see that it was much better than I had expected it to be. It contained much less swp type jargon also than I had feared. But before I get slagged off by the indymedia masses or get taken off the wire! I have to point out its limitations also. Among the issues of concen to me and other young people was no mention of the heavy handed response of the US/EU to Napster and more recently to many of the clones of Napster and against peer to peer mp3 music trading generally.

author by Raypublication date Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:08author address author phone Report this post to the editors

This is a comment on an article, not an original article. Go to one of the articles that mentions the SWP anti-Nice factsheet, and use the 'add comments' feature.

author by Parabolapublication date Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:46author address author phone Report this post to the editors

napster is dead end of story it sold out to all the big record labels, but who gives a shit the great thing about the net is open source projects. just download kazaa lite a hacked version of kazaa which has all the spyware left out and is much better than kazaa original or even napster. you can get it at http://www.kazaalite.com/ btw this isnt a major issue of concern when there are young children in the subcontinent sewing nike football's and hunting rats to keep there families alive is it?

author by FECKED OFFpublication date Sat Aug 31, 2002 13:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Ray, you are doing a great job in general but you are turing into 'the general' - calm it down for fecks sake!!! or change your tune - but otherwise GOOD STUFF....

author by Ruairipublication date Sat Aug 31, 2002 13:17author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I feel the crackdown on Napster and the like is very important and highly relevant to anti-capitalist causes.

It raises the issue of commodity/common resource control and music is yet another thing they've tried to steal control of.

We should all support the likes of Napster and it's successors and they are part of the reclaiming movement - reclaiming our streets, our communities, our souls and our music!

"ONE GOOD THING ABOUT MUSIC IS THAT WHEN IT HITS YOU, YOU FEEL ALRIGHT!"
Roberty Nesta Marley

author by o so sillypublication date Sat Aug 31, 2002 21:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

this post further shows how dumb this site has become because it is just a place to bash the SWP.

love them or hate them, it seems that all people do here is beat on the SWP.

who cares?

author by read before you replypublication date Sun Sep 01, 2002 00:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors


yes, what next, you really are oh so silly.
In fact you dont read that well either as none of the above posts was 'just slagging off the swp' Personally I neither love them or hate them, but I wont pretend they are perfect and make no mistakes as you seem to be doing, or do you just want Ray to censor anything even slightly critical?,on the grounds that it belongs somewhere else (far Away)

And yes Napster is important also, as is the subcontinent, its not a case of either or!
Not everyone has goldfish like attention spans of 30 seconds, and some us can even multitask, or be concerned about 2 issues.

author by DJ Robpublication date Sun Sep 01, 2002 15:55author address author phone Report this post to the editors

freenetproject.org

methinks also a good feature of indymedia would be some sort of forum bulletin board, thus freeing up the newswire from being one long op column.

author by QWERTYpublication date Sun Sep 01, 2002 20:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You can call me workerist but the issue of napster is not a major issue among most ordinary young people!

Housing, Education, employment, are more impoartant!!

author by older and psysic toopublication date Sun Sep 01, 2002 20:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Did any of the messages above say the issues of
Housing, Education, employment, were not impoartant. No I did not think so,

As for what is not is not 'a major issue among most ordinary young people' That is the only good question raised. Most young people possibly wont vote at all, thus showing they neither agree with the politican 'suits' in favour of Nice or most of the groups against. Strange really considering both know the issues that concern young people, isnt it?
Just because Trotsky didnt write about Napster and other issues, does not mean they are not important to young people.

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