J15-Catalan police used agent provocateurs in attempt to destroy M15 peaceful revolutionary movement

by #spanishrevolution Thu Jun 16, 2011 09:08

Full report from yesterday: helicopters, gunshots, riot vans screaming, armed cavalcade blocked and turned away... M15 > J15
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/100008

These "protestors" gather in a garageway and are encircled by protestors who chant "secret police"

"protesters" standing in doorways

"protesters" masked up while leaving under police protection

Placa Jaume is filled that evening and state terror actions are denounced

by iosaf Thu Jun 16, 2011 13:34 barcelona

6 people were arrested yesterday. Yep. Half a dozen. At that rate the grand old duke of york could go up and down that fecking hill every 15th, 16th, 26th and 19th of the month for the full term of a rightwing government and still have 9000 people neither up nor down.

Mr Interior minister Felip Puig (the beloved) confirmed the presence of plainsclothes plod (they're always there) but denies they were provocateuring pointing out that in the video (which he obtusely dismisses as fake) you don't actually see plainclothes plod hitting anyone....well if it's fake you wouldn't need to point that out, would you? Anyway he's thinking about bringing charges of libel against 66 year old Arcadi Oliveras the president of the "Justice and Peace" and generally much respected intellectual old bod - for seemingly starting the whole provocateur thing in an interview given to various radio & telly stations yesterday.

& the whole political class are out with their opinions today. Oh! what a range of things they have to say. Catalan President Artur Mas has got a whole page of the local rag titled "From Indignant to Indignity" (that's snappy, no?) whilst ex-president Gonzales of Spain has expressed his disappointment that the movement has and is "going nowhere" and anyway as far as he can see "direct democracy" would be like what California has - and California is "ungovernable" as far as he is concerned. I suppose it would be the 6th largest economy in the world if it was an independent state - but it does have difficulty deciding whether or not to legalise marijuana and gay marriage in its referenda. Yep. ungovernable.

Anyway. The half dozen people arrested face 5 years in prison under articles 494 and 498 which make it wantonly naughty to hit, assualt or threaten an elected representative. Coz they're special and not like ordinary people.

by #SpanishRevolution Thu Jun 16, 2011 19:11

Spread word.

quienes son los violentos ? Subt castellano de xartigas (only 306 views now, we will see how it grows)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nrR5m0xsVM

Caption: Video Id: 3nrR5m0xsVM Type: Youtube Video
quienes son los violentos? Who are the violent ones?

by #SpanishRevolution Thu Jun 16, 2011 19:28

On the Spanish paper Público's website, there is now an article, with the vid embedded, which outlines the claims of this article; J15-Catalan police used agent provocateurs in attempt to destroy M15 peaceful revolutionary movement

It is interesting to read the long commentry after the post, now numbering 410 views from people, most agreeing with the M15 claims.

The Barcelona protesters claim that police infiltrators began the incidents (the violence)
They posted a YouTube video in which it shows alleged plainclothes police officers

Los manifestantes de Barcelona denuncian que infiltrados de la policía comenzaron los incidentes
Han colgado un vídeo en YouTube en el que señalan a supuestos policías de paisano

http://www.publico.es/espana/382254/los-manifestantes-d...entes
Google translation found at http://translate.google.es/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es...entes

NEWS: Barcelona protesters claim that police infiltrators began the incidents (the violence)

by iosaf .:. - "sue me for libel why don't you" Thu Jun 16, 2011 19:40

The Catalan interior ministry would have no hassle telling youtube to pull any video which helped identify plod be plod in usual uniform, Kevlar® bloodlust berserk kit or as this bunch of chaps were - plain clothes . Oh yes. & they were almost all chaps weren't they? Just one chapette amongst them. Now I don't want to labour a point here - but should the Catalan interior ministry get above its rank & station in a sort of rightwing Catalan nationalist way & go ferreting across the internet - then whoever put that video up is guilty of a crime..............&..................whoever watched it could find themselves filed away under the big bad a-n-t-i-t-e-r-r-o-r-i-s-m legislation, for which the Spanish state is still acknowledged to be a leader in sport & no doubt draws upon a tradition which goes back to the Spanish inquisition ((( "you never expect the Spanish inquisition" )))

3 of the individuals in the vid were of course pictured in an illustration to a comment I left the night of the angry people outside the cordon of uniformed people which was around the indignant people .

go on.
have a look.
push your frontiers.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/99883?comment_limit=0&c...58172

now you know what the people look like who do the vice, drugs & surveillance stuff. Do you find their faces and clothes distinctive or anonymous? Forgive me - I grew up in Ireland in the times of Garda special branch who always wore tweed sports jackets and moustaches and removed the model and make plates off their cars. Of course back then Ireland was awash with moustaches and tweed sports jackets so you'd never seem them coming.

I think we're getting distracted by all this & in truth it is not important to the progress of the movement & at worst will strategically impede future street based engagement where you know "indignant" people might get mixed up with "angry" people

by #SpanishRevolution Thu Jun 16, 2011 21:27

Another vid has popped up of the violent "protestors", this time they say nothing and get a mouthful from an indignant one "have you no kids, are you not worried about their future, what about your parents and grandparents, why are you doing this..."

Barcelona 15J - Agentes secretos infiltrados provocan cargas policiales contra los Indignados
Barcelona 15J - hidden secret police provoke police retaliation against the indignant ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIIEmhTdOPE

Caption: Video Id: LIIEmhTdOPE Type: Youtube Video
Barcelona 15J - hidden secret police provoke police retaliation against the indignant ones

by Mafalda Fri Jun 17, 2011 00:10

In this video you can see how the guy wearing a red T-shirt is also a policeman who tries to convince people to react violently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neXPB-Ta9Gc#t=2m14s

Watch the minute 3.30, when the guy without T-shirt loses his hat and policemen grab it to pass it to other cops so they can give it back to the guy, who by the way, is provoking them and they don't react against him, only him. Weird, isn't it?

by JoeMc Fri Jun 17, 2011 08:05

"According to one eyewitness, “We saw clearly one police van arriving, three coming out dressed in plainclothes…the police infiltrators went directly to the demonstration…they started to insult [the deputies], throw empty bottles of water at them and more…after, o"ne went directly to the van because the idiot had left his security clearance badge around his neck!”
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jun2011/spai-j17.shtml

by #SpanishRevolution Fri Jun 17, 2011 13:36

The Green Eco Environmental News - current main story is this one:
http://paper.li/NihiloZero/eco-green-environmental c/o TWEET @NihiloZero http://tinyurl.com/5sjkkw2

The Green Eco Environmental News: Word is spreading around TWITTER world about the illegal actions of catalan police

by #SpanishRevolution Fri Jun 17, 2011 19:07

Guardian Journalist Paul Lewis has tweeted the following:

Are police agent provocatuers being used to stoke the flames at Spanish protests? bit.ly/jEuriX

TWEET found at http://tinyurl.com/6f4splr (original http://twitter.com/#!/PaulLewis/status/81716465836883968 )

Paul Lewis is Special Projects Editor for the Guardian. He was named Reporter of the Year at the British Press Awards 2010 and won the 2009 Bevins Prize for outstanding investigative journalism. He previously worked at the Washington Post as the Stern Fellow: http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/paullewis

What is important here is that Paul Lewis has been the main person, along with Rob Evans, who has been covering, and indeed uncovering much of the dirty, seedy, illegal goings in the british police services. In recent months there have been shocking revelations of a series of embedded undercover police in the UK and Euro environmental activist world, most notably the agent Mark Kennedy, or Mark Stone, or "Flash", who even appeared up in Rossport. Hopefully the Guardian and Paul Lewis will also investigate the murky goings on in Spain at the moment, and with that the wider world willl see what a devious ploy has been used in these last 2 days in Catalunya to discredit the PEACEFUL M-15 movement of the INDIGNADOS.

Mark Kennedy - section on Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/mark-kennedy

Previous indymedia Ireland feature on Stone and his "friends":
Police officer infiltrator exposed
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/97967

Guardian Journo: Are police agent provocatuers being used to stoke the flames at Spanish protests?

by HelpUS! Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:07

journalists are removed and only a few can do their job, with no explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJB9BNUTOTo&feature=play...at=26

by iosaf Sat Jun 18, 2011 13:20

Oh.... I haven't mentioned the guide dog before, have I? Annabelle is a labrador working canine who sees for the first ability challenged deputy to be elected to a regional parliament in the Spanish state. Whoever grabbed her off the CiU deputy really didn't do any favours. As I've said loads now - there have been only 6 arrests. The movement continues. There are obviously "angry", "indignant" and "uniformed" people and they can sometimes be difficult to distinguish. There was a riot. There was an astounding showdown in true "V=Vendetta" style complete with blackblock along the 4km perimeter of the park. Yep - there were provocateurs. Yep there didn't really need to be provocateurs either - if you saw the entrances to Leinster House or Government buildings or the Phoenix park barricaded as they were the other day & all the wheely bins lined up for a torching - then you'd think the multitude were marching up that hill.

but as I labour to explain - they were & still are : NEITHER UP NOR DOWN

Tomorrow is June 19th. The CNI (Spanish intelligence service) has alerted of a possible quasi terrorist assault on the Spanish state congress in Madrid.

fancy that........................¿would that be more up or a wee bit downish?

by PEACEFUL INDIGNADO Mon Jun 20, 2011 09:57

Last few days it looked like wednesday trick with these Agent provoceteurs had truly served its purpose: TO MAKE THE 15-M MOVEMENT APPEAR A VIOLENT ONE. We worried that many here in Catalunya had changed their mind about the Indignados, BUT, after yesterdays immense show of people on the streets (somewhere between 100,000 and a quarter million people - 4 and a half hours of slowly walking in the streets) it looks like the people will not be fooled, they have learned of these dirty tricks campaigns run by state / police / media. In fact, yesterday, thanks to the video above, "that video" (in all its many copied versions) there were and still are A4 black and white pages of the INFILTRADOS (police infiltrators) up all over the city. Infact, due to them, or Indignant intelligence, 2 were spotted and clowns escorted them out of the demo, of course they regroupped with their buddies later, but now their faces are known and that the indignants are unafraid, well their job is going to get all that harder.

brief report about those goings on:

- Miles de 'indignados' finalizan la marcha con la lectura de un manifiesto en Pla de Palau
http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/20110619/541739352....html

Although the manifestation of the # 19-J has developed smoothly and within the framework of a festive nature, a small group of dissidents has led past the 18.15 afternoon moments of tension when two officers allegedly discovered the Catalan police dressed in 'civilian' in the march. Young people, some dressed in clown wigs, have started to rebuke the alleged agents, when organizers of the march have been reduced to shouting No violence dissidents and accompanied the two men to another area before the whistle a crowd of attendees.

From initial report from yesterdays AMAZING day of action in Spain, especially in Barcelona:

100.000+ INDIGNADOS take to the streets of Barcelona, many many more around Spain and planet
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/99816&comment_limit=0&c...81655

Iosaf, in regard to your quesion; Looks like massivly UPPISH, in regard to your question

by ipsiphi Mon Jun 20, 2011 15:04

Last night we found ourself hours after on the way to dunk's house passing past the whole crew of plainsclothes "riot" squad as they stood useless (without batteries or instruction) chewing gum or smoking cigs on the pavement next to their Kevlar® buddies in the riot vans. I found myself singing yeah though ye work through the valley of darkness... & then we mused that it probably had been a good idea to leave one poster that had been carried along which illustrated the provocateurs from the other day which we then realised were only part of the whole crew . Oh you can just feel them fantasizing about their dark martial arts. Throw the 23rd psalm at them. That's my tip. Remember you're awesome you're mass.

There was reportedly only one incident yesterday. Oddly enough I was close by and texted Dunk about it "pacifist dispersal" for this was at a stage when I at the reading of the declarations had utterly underestimated the turn-out. I was with a Catalan middle aged artist with his kid he's neighbour from my actual house. We saw short and shallow wave of nerves and concern was felt as some youngsters seemed to be about to stray in to the rough places, wee young clowns (the jolly pretty generation we have) strated fluttering about the place & seamlessly and immediately -
The elderly; mature, experienced, on site, middle-aged calmed everything down.
The riot cop-vans moved & the clowns saw their magic exorcise the crew of plainclothes darkness.
Oh yes. for verily there are
Pacifists Infiltrated in the Dissidence

.:. here endeth the lesson +

by PEACEFUL INDIGNADO Tue Jun 21, 2011 08:13

photo series in relation to meeting Mossos and Secretos again in the park, "this time its our turn" was one of the demo calls, heres how things panned out:

1 - La lucha sigue - The struggle continues
2 - The line is held by Mossos at park gates... tension
3 - Open, "theres too many of them, open the gates"
4 - Our friends the "violent protesters" keep an eye on things ("that video" really has been a damn nuisance... all of them)
5 - Clowns hold the line (notice his poster, again images of those "violent protesters", these posters are all over city)

All photos from the WONDERFUL set from the day "Domingo 19-J" by acampadabcnfoto http://www.flickr.com/photos/acampadabcnfoto/sets/72157...9329/

WE ARE WINNING

1 - La lucha sigue - The struggle continues

2 - The line is held by Mossos at park gates... tension

3 - Open, "theres too many of them, open the gates"

4 - Our friends the "violent protesters" keep an eye on things ("that video" really has been a damn nuisance... all of them)

5 - Clowns hold the line (notice his poster, again images of those "violent protesters", these posters are all over city)

by TWEETER Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:46

Irish Journalist Mark Little Tweeted the following on 16 Jun at http://twitter.com/#!/marklittlenews/status/81316421073776640:

Check out this story: http://bit.ly/lJOBvK @pNibbler re: reports of #agentprovocateurs at #spanishrevolution #greekrevolution protests

It links to article "Debate rages over violence at Spanish protests" , which contains the following:

This video, posted yesterday, was viewed over 200,000 times within a few hours. It documents a protest in La Ciutadella, Barcelona on a day that saw dozens injured in clashes near the Catalan parliament. There is a scuffle and police fire baton rounds at the crowd. A voice says “That’s them!” and the camera focuses on a group in a doorway, away from the body of the protest. Eventually, they are led away by police, who appear to shield them from protesters. It is unclear what part this small group played in yesterday’s demonstration, which took place as parliament discussed harsh austerity measures. Those who uploaded the video claim the group were involved in provoking the violence based, they say, on eyewitness testimony. Based on the video evidence, however, it is equally possible that they are simply plainclothes policemen. In fact, the evidence is entirely inconclusive. Whatever the case is, the video has sparked a debate about ‘Who are the violent ones’?

View full article with vids and comments at http://storyful.com/stories/1000004524-brazil Mark Little TWEET found on the #agentprovocateurs list at http://tinyurl.com/5vcp2ly

Irish Journalist Mark Little regarding J15 + "Debate rages over violence at Spanish protests"