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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9Any photos or first-hand accounts of the day? Because if so this could make an awesome feature.
there's a good one on joemygod.blogspot.com, with lovely photos too. i'll check whether it can be passed on to indymedia.
Some footage and commentary can also be found here: http://www.goodasyou.org/
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NYC St. Patrick's Day/Irish Queers protest against religious-right parade
NYC St. Patrick's Day/Irish Americans are not all straight, Catholic, white, anti-choice or pro-#$%&-war! No matter how hard Hibernians wish.
Irish parades in America are for Irish people to celebrate their Irish heritage, they're not front groups for every minority that wants to hijack them. If the LGBT are so concerned about this, they should set up their own counter-parade so satisfy the views of their own community. They can't force their views on other Irish-Americans.
to corkman: we are f***ing irish. thats the point. imagine that: we are irish and queer.!
seperate is not equal. if the event is to celebrate irishness it has to include lgbt irish and irish-americans. and as far as another event why dont the homophobes gather in a grotto or bingo parochial hall to have their hate fest., and keep it private?
"After 9/11, police and firefighters became the focus of the parade – celebrated and cheered even as they screamed “die, faggots!” at Irish LGBT people on the sidelines. While Irish immigrants of conscience were working to make links with Arab and Muslim immigrants who were coming under attack citywide, our parade was filled with US military contingents "
Well correct me if I'm wrong, 343 Firemen died in one instance in New York, 80? some odd Policemen(& Women, Moira Smith), an 2 members of the 69th that day in New York city, so Gobsmack me that they would be cheered? were they all anti-gay?
And Has not the "Fighting 69th" LED NY city's parade since before their Civil War? 150 Years if I read correctly, as they are the armed escort originally to protect the marchers from Protestant attacks?
Having been across the avenue from Your Protest Saturday (I was wearing the deerstalker cap) I can say No soldier from the 69th cursed you that I saw or heard.
I understand there is a Gay"Pride" parade there in the spring as well, right down the same route
"Irish parades in America are for Irish people to celebrate their Irish heritage, they're not front groups for every minority that wants to hijack them."
The AOH is a front group and they run the parade and edit the lineup. Its precisely the AOH who force their views on everyone else. I cant imagine that New Yorkers or the tens of millions of Irish Americans out there are so out of step with mainstream American opinion as to want to segregate the gays. It is also outlawed in most spheres of public life. That said I would welcome it if the AOH and their killer cop friends wanted to march under their own flag rather than our one, that would be some kind of order of malta ensign or the opus dei standard or the Vatican flag or more authentically they could wander the canyons under the banner of the Eucharistic Congress of 1932.
"Well correct me if I'm wrong, 343 Firemen died in one instance in New York, 80? some odd Policemen(& Women, Moira Smith), an 2 members of the 69th that day in New York city, so Gobsmack me that they would be cheered? were they all anti-gay?"
3000 workers died also, we must assume that several hundred of them were gay and many more of them Irish or Irish American. 9-11 has become a spinning top of law enforcement and patriotic propaganda to the exclusion of alternative or counter narratives. And i dont mean conspiracy theories, the reason why none of those firemen heard the order to evacuate the buildings was because of the crap radios they had as a result of corruption. Giuliani time. The NYPD ran for their lives like everyone else. But the parade is not a 9-11 commemoration march and if it is to be then all of those who died should be honoured.
Well now, according to various Information outlets the first St. Patricks day parade in New York was Founded by soldiers in 1766.
AOH has been running the Parade since the 1900's at least. As it is a Catholic organization & the Church frowns upon Homosexuality officially seems hardly surprising that they dont want this group. Considering the Gay pride parade in June in NY usually saved some very questionable antics for it's stop in front of St. Patricks Cathedral, one might ask why the sudden wish to pay homage in March?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Patrick's_Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_Hibernian...tates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._69th_Infantry_Regiment