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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8Yet again the urban centres of Ireland-
Dublin, Cork and all returned the highest percentage of No votes. Who the fuck is Dana?
VICTORY! Now let's legislate for a woman's right to choose. And fuck Fianna Fail for their moral cowardice and political oppurtunism. Let's get these losers thrown out once and for all.
VICTORY!
VICTORY !
VICTORY!
Look it up - rich bastards voted NO, poor people voted YES
Question is... Why?
I think that everyone in ANV should be pretty pleased with themselves (especially the SWP) for a job well done! And the best part is that Fianna Fail have done our work for us in the upcoming elections e.g: they confused and angered the people of ireland and left an opening for the anti-capitalist movement to steer them in the right direction - Socialist Revolution!
Once again, Victory is ours!
P.S All filmmakers check out www.fubar-film.cjb.net and organise against the capitialst media!
They couldn't be right could they?
Real Worker asks why poorer people voted yes. Could it be that their experience of injustice lets them know when the powerless are being victimised?
There's some mad hallucination out there if the SWP think that a political party most Irish people haven't even heard of had some major role in this. By the way do they believe in abortion up to birth or what?
As for the idea that FF have opened a way to a socialist revolution, you might want to consider that FF managed to get 49.6% of the people to back their proposal, a figure which would be enough to get them an overall majority in the Dail if repeated, and that part of the other 50% are Dana-heads who are hardly going to vote for you shower of campaign hijackers either.
Keep selling the papers.
"real worker", did you vote yes then?
i believe if it wasn't for the many pro-choice groups in the no campaign things would have been a lot different.
the fact that people could see us on the street calling for a no vote and in talking to people saying that the reason for voting no was pro-choice gave confidence to a lot of people who because of catholic guilt or whatever were frightened to be seen taking a stance against the governments proposal.
and that is down to EVERYONE involved in the anv not just one group.
as to who voted what and why it is ridiculous to say that only rich bastards voted no - it was urban areas no and rural yes - can "real worker" give me a breakdown of the economic divide in this instance?
The SWP did very little to get a NO vote, in fact they probably got more Yes votes. Those posters, of Bertie Aherne pregnant were terrible. They did not deal with the issues of the referendum ie right to choose and the X case. They came from a ultra feminist angle not a marxist/socialist one. They presented pregnancy as a problem, pregnancy is not a problem for a majority of women, this referendum was about those with unwanted pregnancies. Of course at the results announcement they were up to their old antics of trying to recreate the atmosphere around the X case in 1992, really they should grow up, they are an example of opportunism at its worst. As soon as the SWP have their split in Ireland the better, I am sick of them.
I think 'Real Worker' may have a point.
The rich areas of Dublin had by far the highest No vote...
Dun Laoghaire 68% NO, Dublin South East 68, and Dublin South 64.
By contrast the poorer areas had a much smaller No vote, though still very high compared to the rural areas...
Dublin North West (Finglas etc) 58% No, Dublin North Central 58, and Dublin Central 59.
On the Northside the No vote was generally much lower than the Southside except in the one area that's wealthy - Dublin North East (Clontarf, Sutton, Howth) which had 64% No.
In the country as a whole again you see that the poorest areas had the lowest No vote...
Donegal North East 29%, Longford-Roscommon 36%.
Whether it means anything I don't know but it would be hard to back up the claim that "It's the working class wot did it!" using these results.
That's crap - I don't like the SWP much but they were out there knocking on doors and leafletting while you were up your arse refining your 'Marxism' - as I once said "if that's what Marxism is then I'm not a Marxist"